The Atlantis, Bahamas....

Has just become an Autograph property. Any guesses on whether The Reef would become MVC?

GreenTea said:

Has just become an Autograph property. Any guesses on whether The Reef would become MVC?

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are you kidding??? Atlantis a Marriott????

http://online.wsj.com/articles/broo...efinancing-debt-on-atlantis-resort-1404239562

We went about 8 years ago with (then)high school kids, stayed in one of the towers, and it's an amazing place.....unique and maybe one of the most wonderful resorts on the planet, albeit very expensive.

will have to check what's required to stay there, and when it'll be available to Marriott folks.....it'll require tons of points, I'm sure. But it's the ultimate kids' dream vacation.

Marty, without a WSJ subscription I couldn't get the article to load with your link, but it came up as the first hit on a "Marriott Atlantis" google search. There's also this one from news.marriott.com: A New Treasure for the Autograph Collection

... Atlantis, Paradise Island will be available on Marriott International’s booking channels this fall. For bookings at the resort from now until that time, please visit www.atlantis.com, contact your local travel agent or call 800-ATLANTIS. ...

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The Autograph Collection hotels are generally highest-tier Marriott offerings that require a boatload of MRP and/or DC Points when they're available. Still, this is a VERY NICE addition for us!

A really great addition to the portfolio.
We had one of the most enjoyable trips of our life there some years back.
An amazing place.
I dread to think what the cost/points will be to stay there, but I would certainly like to return some day.
Perhaps I could suggest a few floors be reserved for conversion as a new MVC resort?

From Marriott.com:

http://news.marriott.com/2014/07/a-new-treasure-for-the-autograph-collection.html

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Atlantis will operate under a long term franchise agreement and Marriott will provide a $100 million mezzanine loan to the project.
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They didn't buy it, their just managing it, similar to what Hilton does. I wouldn't count on any Marriott TS's.

Ron98GT said:

From Marriott.com:

http://news.marriott.com/2014/07/a-new-treasure-for-the-autograph-collection.html

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Atlantis will operate under a long term franchise agreement and Marriott will provide a $100 million mezzanine loan to the project.
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They didn't buy it, their just managing it, similar to what Hilton does. I wouldn't count on any Marriott TS's.

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That's how the overwhelming majority of Marriott hotels/resorts work - they don't own them, they just manage them, but they can be booked using MRP's. I agree with you that it's a very long shot for any units to be re-furbed and/or -branded to timeshares then conveyed to the DC Trust. But they'd be crazy to not open up availability using DC Points through the Explorer Collection, which is how other top-tier Marriott hotels/resorts are made available to the timeshare owners/members. Sure, it'll cost a boatload of points either way, just like it costs a boatload of cash to book it, but it'll definitely generate interest - I know I'll seriously consider it!

The timeshares nearby are Starwood - are they Harborside and Reef? I wonder if this will allow MVW's first foray into using the DC Exchange Company for exchanging to non-Marriott branded timeshares. They haven't yet and there's no indication whether it will or won't ever happen, but the DC set-up allows for it.

You know who's going to be very excited, I think? Greg! His daughter wants to live out a movie for her birthday.

Marriott owns only a small handful of properties. It's how all hotel chains work. They are franchises.

Whoa ! This IS big news.

They (Marriott) find distressed (on different levels) properties and align (for lack of a better term) themselves with the current corporate management in some sort of financial agreement.

The Powerscourt had been a Ritz prior to October, 2013 and is now a Marriott Collection Hotel. Probably similar to the Hotel Casa Monica in St. Augustine which operates as a Kessler Hotel but is a Marriott Autograh hotel.

Both stays were with MRPs.

It seems that the Marriott did pump some money/Euros into the fading Powerscourt and plans to continue

This is welcomed news and thanks for all the informative posts.
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There's generally 3 classes of properties:

1. Marriott owns and manages the property.
2. Marriott manages the property only.
3. Marriott flag is up for the property, but owner manages property under certain standards (pure franchise model).

Most properties fall in #2 or #3, especially for Marriott's lower tier brands. I know Starwood operates under this same model as do most other big chains.

-ryan

SueDonJ said:

The Autograph Collection hotels are generally highest-tier Marriott offerings that require a boatload of MRP and/or DC Points when they're available. Still, this is a VERY NICE addition for us!

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I would agree with this regarding European Autograph locations. But they are why Cat 8 and 9 exists-Europe.

We recently stayed at an Autograph in CR that was a Cat 7. They are high end properties, but not all cat 9's. It will be interesting to see where they put Atlantis.

I always love that Ocean City, MD COURTYARD is a Cat NINE.

sjsharkie said:

1. Marriott owns and manages the property.
2. Marriott manages the property only.
3. Marriott flag is up for the property, but owner manages property under certain standards (pure franchise model).

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4. Marriott flag is up for the property; but the owner has hired a hotel management company other than Marriott to manage the property to Marriott standards.

SueDonJ said:

You know who's going to be very excited, I think? Greg! His daughter wants to live out a movie for her birthday.

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This is great news!!!! They aren't booking it now, but I will be watching like a hawk....

Thanks TUGgers for posting this!

Best,

Greg

Of course, great addition..it will take a lot of points to stay there.. but it might be worth it.. I am planning to go there in couple of years. I have a toddler, he is only 2.. so it's a little early for him to enjoy it
J

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The timeshares nearby are Starwood - are they Harborside and Reef?

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The Harborside Resort at Atlantis is part of the Starwood Vacation Network.

This support by Marriott looks like welcome news for Atlantis! They definitely need some help...


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Puck: "to 6206 and beyond" ??????? Could this be it?

In light of Atlantis becoming a Marriott Autograph Resort, it
will be interesting to see what happens to "Puck's Room"
here at Atlantis.......you know, that single suite at Atlantis which
bridges the two towers on an upper level, called The Bridge Suite,
currently $38,000 per night.

I figure he's already been in consultation with them, wanting to have them
change the name of the suite to "Beyond".

If 6206 was sweet at MOC (re his recent posts "to 6206 and beyond"),
then surely this suite is the BEYOND he's talking about.


Not sure what category this will be, but perhaps I can use my FREE NIGHT certificate.

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Very exciting news! A great addition for Marriott.

Ken555 said:

The Harborside Resort at Atlantis is part of the Starwood Vacation Network.

This support by Marriott looks like welcome news for Atlantis! They definitely need some help...


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Thanks, Ken.

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When I saw this picture, the first thing I thought of was the Bridge of Sighs, at the Doge Palace, in Venice. The Bridge of Death.

I do like the sea horses, a Caribbean touch.

Ken555 said:

The Harborside Resort at Atlantis is part of the Starwood Vacation Network.

This support by Marriott looks like welcome news for Atlantis! They definitely need some help...


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I wonder if the timeshare owners at Harborside at the Atlantis might consider reflagging to Marriott Vacation Club management? Or, I wonder if Marriott Vacation Club would make a move on Harborside?

EducatedConsumer said:

I wonder if the timeshare owners at Harborside at the Atlantis might consider reflagging to Marriott Vacation Club management? Or, I wonder if Marriott Vacation Club would make a move on Harborside?

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The owners at Harborside, as represented by the BOD, own Harborside - not Starwood. Starwood is just the management company.

That being said, historically, Starwood has the BOD's under their thumb, and they do exactly what Starwood tells them to do. Starwood is making a fortune managing Harborside, and reselling TS inventory that they get back, so I can't imagine any scenario in which the BOD would fire them, unless Starwood gets out of the TS management business all together.

good evening....

That suite is WAY Beyond....

just for what it's worth...I thought Atlantis was somewhat ho-hum... Reef and Cove looked great with private pool and beach area... rest of hotel seemed nice but comon pool and beach area had sort of a "Coney Island " feel to it.... The aquarium is cool...but after 1 trip through not much else to look at... The water slides are nice but long lines...

Timeshare had location, but shuttle to pools and beaches... but easy walk to the villages and dining...

Give me 6206!!! or Kauai...

that's the beauty of this timeshare stuff... different strokes for different folks...

We stayed at the Cove 3 years ago. It was marketed as "ADULTS" only. When we got there, there were many children. We were told they could not fill the resort with only adults. The room were beautiful, but we had to be moved 3 times when we checked in because of housekeeping issues and broken toilets. Once we were settled we loved it. There is an adults only pool. That was great, but the high rollers had first choice of the sun beds--which we paid $125 per day to use.
We have stayed at the Royal Tower during other trips to the property. I like Atlantis and I am looking forward to using MRP to take my 6 year old grandson to the property. Personally I think it is perfect for a long weekend!

Use of DC Points for Autograph Collection Properties??

Can you (and if so, how do you) use DC points for Marriott Autograph Collection hotels such as the Atlantis in Bahamas? http://news.marriott.com/2014/07/a-n...ollection.html

Some of these properties are part of the Explorer Collection where you can use DC points for stays at these properties. Many will say though that it really isn't a good use of points given their high points levels. Generally the best value for points is using them for stays at MVCI properties.

Atlantis isn't an Autograph property yet, though many suspect when it becomes one that DC owners/members will be able to use their points there, though it still requires a special agreement between MVCI and the owners of Atlantis, which BTW is not Marriott. They are not even managing the property when it becomes an Autograph property.

NYFLTRAVELER said:

Can you (and if so, how do you) use DC points for Marriott Autograph Collection hotels such as the Atlantis in Bahamas? http://news.marriott.com/2014/07/a-n...ollection.html

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Participating hotels are generally available through the Explorer Collection. (Click on "Explorer Collection" in the dropdown menu under "Plan and Book My Vacation," then click on "Marriott Hotels" under "Hotels and Luxury Residences.")

If you don't have a my-vacationclub.com account here's one example:

Mansion on Forsyth Park; Savannah, GA
675 DC Points per night - June 1 through Sept 11, 2014
825 DC Points per night - Sept 12 through Dec 31, 2014
*Nov 7-8 blackout dates

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Each participating property has its own Points schedule and terms, and you have to call in to a VOA to check availability/make reservations.