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Redweeks aka IA Vacations

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These people are a bunch of dishonest people. Bought a Marriott from them without a ROFR, and it took them 6 months to close it. Guaranteed me a week at the resort and had to hound them for 4 months to get a reservation and before the unit was transferred they cancelled the reservation which cost me $1200 in maintenance fees. What a bunch of crooks. Also their sidekick
VP Title is no better than Pacific Transfer, they are brainless wonders probably working for $5 an hour. Lucky if you get an answer in 2 weeks. Good luck to anyone that uses them.
 
Not to rub salt in the wound but documented problems with this seller on TUG go back 6 years. Thread after thread after thread of issues. My guess is that you rolled the dice and went with it anyway. Sometimes problems accompany a cheap timeshare purchase, especially one from a very well known poor reputation seller.

I bought from them recently and I have no clue on where they are in the process. They definitely don't send out any updates.
 
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Yes, well-documented. Yes, roll of the dice.

nazclk said:
These people are a bunch of dishonest people. Bought a Marriott from them without a ROFR, and it took them 6 months to close it. Guaranteed me a week at the resort and had to hound them for 4 months to get a reservation and before the unit was transferred they cancelled the reservation which cost me $1200 in maintenance fees. What a bunch of crooks. Also their sidekick
VP Title is no better than Pacific Transfer, they are brainless wonders probably working for $5 an hour. Lucky if you get an answer in 2 weeks. Good luck to anyone that uses them.
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I purchased a week 22 and the listing included free use of the week. Waited on them to make the reservation, then took matter into my own hands the day before check-in. Called about the transfer and the use of the week. I ended up having to pay fees for the week that were past due. I have requested a refund of those fees, but it looks like I may have to file a dispute with my credit card company on the original purchase. VP Title says they are looking into it, verifying the past due fees and my payment, etc. :rolleyes:

Saintsfanfl said:
Not to rub salt in the wound but documented problems with this seller on TUG go back 6 years. Thread after thread after thread of issues. My guess is that you rolled the dice and went with it anyway. Sometimes problems accompany a cheap timeshare purchase, especially one from a very well known poor reputation seller.

I bought from them recently and I have no clue on where they are in the process. The definitely don't send out any updates.
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I've bought from them in the past with no problems. Hopefully, this one will work out also without me having to file a dispute.
 
Dispute

Update after I called them and had a little chat, I saw another Marriott on Ebay that I wanted, try to bid on it and they have blocked me. Oh well all the better I guess, can't buy any more from them. :hysterical:
 
nazclk said:
Update after I called them and had a little chat, I saw another Marriott on Ebay that I wanted, try to bid on it and they have blocked me. Oh well all the better I guess, can't buy any more from them. :hysterical:
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Same thing happened to me. Their deals are low because some know of their track record and stay away. At the end of the day you end up paying more than the purchase price because it takes so damn long to close you end up getting screwed in two usage years where you end up with less than desirable usage weeks.
 
That's what I figure will happen if I initiate a dispute.

nazclk said:
Update after I called them and had a little chat, I saw another Marriott on Ebay that I wanted, try to bid on it and they have blocked me. Oh well all the better I guess, can't buy any more from them. :hysterical:
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But maybe that will save me from myself in the future.
 
nazclk said:
Update after I called them and had a little chat, I saw another Marriott on Ebay that I wanted, try to bid on it and they have blocked me. Oh well all the better I guess, can't buy any more from them. :hysterical:
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If you're into self inflicted pain you could get another eBay account and a different email and start all over with them.
 
Earlier this year, we bought a unit at Marriott's Kauai Beach Club from them, not doing research before we won the auction. Then read the reviews and got worried. They told me up front it could take 6 months to finalize the deal and they actually got it done in about 4. So, I do have to say, while the overall reviews are bad, this blind squirrel found a nut!
 
classiclincoln said:
Earlier this year, we bought a unit at Marriott's Kauai Beach Club from them, not doing research before we won the auction. Then read the reviews and got worried. They told me up front it could take 6 months to finalize the deal and they actually got it done in about 4. So, I do have to say, while the overall reviews are bad, this blind squirrel found a nut!
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If they weren't successful they would have been out of business a very long time ago. Even if 3 deals out of 100 hit snags, we usually hear loudly about those three deals. They do such high volume that the snag deals seem like they are the majority but the reality is far from it.
 
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If they weren't successful they would have been out of business a very long time ago. Even if 3 deals out of 100 hit snags, we usually hear loudly about those three deals. They do such high volume that the snag deals seem like they are the majority but the reality is far from it.
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As usual it's buyer beware. From now on if I see something from a churner I'll just pass because the purchase price is not the true cost if something is going to take 6-9 months to close and you lose out on 2 years of prime reservations which can easily happen. Just not worth it in my book. Sure you get a good price but the headache and the loss of prime reservation adds to the final costs so even a low purchase price adds up.

And what could possibly take 6 months to close? That is just bad business. If you have that much volume then hire more workers. They don't want to do that because all they care about is profits and not so much their customers. So they'd rather over work their employees causing more delays and more mistakes.
 
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That's what they tried to tell me, "we do thousands of these" well then I guess you should know what the hell you are doing then, they just absolutely don't care when they have your money. Maybe we ought to switch it around a little bit, and see how it works when we just give them $100 deposit and the remainder at the close of escrow. Just wondering if they would get their ass in gear.
 
I am purchasing through redweek4less/IA Vacations as well. We had the sales agreement finalized on 2/18 and I am still waiting to get through ROFR. It is amazing how the people at vp title just keep giving excuses and delay constantly. They are always telling me they will know 7-10 days, and then they never contact me. If i didn't email them I wouldn't ever hear from them.
 
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I am purchasing through redweek4less/IA Vacations as well. We had the sales agreement finalized on 2/18 and I am still waiting to get through ROFR. It is amazing how the people at vp title just keep giving excuses and delay constantly. They are always telling me they will know 7-10 days, and then they never contact me. If i didn't email them I wouldn't ever here from them.
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Is this a Marriott? If so then it isn't possible for it to take this long. Something else must be at play.
 
No actually it is Disney( 30 day ROFR period) - so yes I suspect they are playing games. The usage starts in 2014( April use year) so I am not overly annoyed and also expected alot of delays.

My biggest suspicion is they are renting the 2013 (and possibly 2012) usuage and are trying to stall until rental dates are passed.
 
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My biggest suspicion is they are renting the 2013 (and possibly 2012) usage and are trying to stall until rental dates are passed.
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This is exactly what they are doing. They could just be honest and most people would understand...
 
One last thing

When we had "our little chat" I told the "supposed" manager of IA that I would post a review on TUG and her reply was "we don't give a *bleep* about TUG and you could write all you want" Well maybe if enough people hear about them they will start to care
 
nazclk said:
When we had "our little chat" I told the "supposed" manager of IA that I would post a review on TUG and her reply was "we don't give a *bleep* about TUG and you could write all you want" Well maybe if enough people hear about them they will start to care
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I agree that they don't care about TUG. There have been many posts/threads about them over the years and they never do anything about it. There are several other mega Ebay sellers who come in and post/fix issues when someone posts negatively about their company. IA just changes the name of the closing company and continues with the same actions.
 
Just exchanged emails with VP title again. Again they have requested an expeditated response to their ROFR waiver (first time I heard this phrase was beginning of April). If they don't hear anything by the end of the week they will contact the developer. Yea right - I am sure I won't hear back from them until next week after I email them.
 
Just sent several emails to Pacific Transfer. Seem my sales contract which says Shell California Collection 7000 points really means Shell Hawaii Collection with two member contracts - 2500 points and 4500 points.

THINK NOT! I won't sign the transfer papers to Shell nor provide my member number untl THEY get it RIGHT. I don't want Hawaii --- I want California Club.

And I want ONLY 1 transfer fee in the future.
 
Redweek4less/VP Title

I won an E-bay bid for Marriott's Oceana Palms in Feb. at a great price. These folks drug me on for a couple of months and it appears they were lying about something all the time. The week was a plat. week and I wanted them to make a reservation for me due to the obvious popularity of winter weeks and especially at Oceana Palms....they said they couldn't do it! Then there was the ROFR issue and as I kept after them they would tell me they were waiting to hear back from Marriott. After talking a couple of times to the Marriott group that handles ROFR they assured me no one from VP Title had sent anything on Oceana Palms. I continued to press them about the Marriott response and they seem confused. Eventually they refunded my money (with out me asking)and said the owner breached the contract and they were in the process of taking action against them. By that time I was not believing a word they said, however, they told me they had another Oceana Palms week and I could have that one as soon as the contract came in. They also said I would get free closing on the replacement week. My last note from them on May 2 said they were still waiting on the contract to come in! Of course I have moved on and the $5100.00 winning bid for an Oceana Palms plat. week probably would not have passed ROFR anyway!

Jim
 
nazclk said:
When we had "our little chat" I told the "supposed" manager of IA that I would post a review on TUG and her reply was "we don't give a *bleep* about TUG and you could write all you want" Well maybe if enough people hear about them they will start to care
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With the age of Google I'm sure they know bad reviews on TUG hurts their business in a big way. They're scammers so poor press isn't going to stop them because there are still enough naive buyers out there that they can still be a poor performer and churn out business.

If only ebay extended their feedback window. That would seriously derail their ability to sell but Ebay in my book is in cahoots to some degree with them as they don't want to lose sellers who bring in profit for them so they look the other way.
 
Longer time on Ebay

Couldn't agree more, most deeded timeshares can't close in the time allotted
 
nazclk said:
Couldn't agree more, most deeded timeshares can't close in the time allotted
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If the deal doesn't close by the allotted time for feed back, leave negative feedback and state the reason that it's been xx days and you still don't have a deed.

My understanding is that you can update feedback but if you miss the deadline, you lose your ability to leave any at all.

A few red marks on their account should make them shuffle their feet a little faster.
 
csxjohn said:
If the deal doesn't close by the allotted time for feed back, leave negative feedback and state the reason that it's been xx days and you still don't have a deed.

My understanding is that you can update feedback but if you miss the deadline, you lose your ability to leave any at all.

A few red marks on their account should make them shuffle their feet a little faster.
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ebay alows the seller and buyer to mutually agree to remove feedback

Bottom line is eBay just want's to stay clear of any reculation relating to real estate transactions and will structure their rules to avoid any regulatoru compliance.
 
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