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Rollover Nights are a Permanent Benefit to Achieving Elite Status

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BarbS said:
Yes, all the nights count toward your current elite status and your lifetime status, including the 15 nights you get each year from your Marriott credit card, and the 1 night you get for each $3,000 charged to your card. Also, your rollover nights count. So those rollover nights really count twice, once in the year you accumulate them, and again when they roll over to the next year.
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I am not sure if I would say that rollover nights count twice. I would say they count in the year they are earned, and can be carried over into the next year only as long as Marriott permits the rollover nights (which they have now for four years or so). Who knows how long the rollover program will last....



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TheTimeTraveler said:
I am not sure if I would say that rollover nights count twice. I would say they count in the year they are earned, and can be carried over into the next year only as long as Marriott permits the rollover nights (which they have now for four years or so). Who knows how long the rollover program will last....



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Rollover nights are now permanent. Checkout post 770 in this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...ott-rewards-elite-status-52.html#post19888174
Hi everyone! Here is some new copy that is about to hit the newswires. We are making the benefit PERMANENT (yahoo!) and will use this thread as the foundation for new FAQs that will be available right after the first of the year.

• NEW Elite Rollover Nights now applies every year.

Any nights you earn above 75 count toward next year’s status.
Learn more at MarriottRewards.com/rollover.
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Post 89 in this thread at MI
http://www.rewards-insiders.marriott.com/thread/11542?start=75&tstart=0
 
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MR instituted this about 4 years ago and continued it year by year. Now its permanent. Check out post 89 (posted by Marriott) in this thread at MI.

http://www.rewards-insiders.marriott.com/thread/11542?start=75&tstart=0

Hi everyone! Here is some new copy that is about to hit the newswires. We are making the benefit PERMANENT (yahoo!) and will use this thread as the foundation for new FAQs that will be available right after the first of the year.

• NEW Elite Rollover Nights now applies every year.

Any nights you earn above 75 count toward next year’s status.
Learn more at MarriottRewards.com/rollover.
 
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please calarify the last so many posts

Hi,
Can you please clarify, I have 65 elite nights in 2012. Do you mean they will carry to 2013 and then start towards the next tier in 2013?
Thank you for clarification.
 
mav said:
Hi,
Can you please clarify, I have 65 elite nights in 2012. Do you mean they will carry to 2013 and then start towards the next tier in 2013?
Thank you for clarification.
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65 nights makes you gold. Gold is 50 nights, so you will roll over 15 nights in to 2013. Though if you rolled over more than 15 nights in to 2012, you won't have any rollover nights, since rollover nights don't rollover again.
 
Oh no (Mav not picking on you because it gets complicated)....here come all of the questions and confusion on calculating rollover nights. Flashing back to Algebra I word problems. :D
 
Mr. Vker said:
Oh no (Mav not picking on you because it gets complicated)....here come all of the questions and confusion on calculating rollover nights. Flashing back to Algebra I word problems. :D
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I know what you mean. It gets very confusing. I used the term rollover five times in that last very short post of mine.
 
Just remember....rollover nights don't rollover. :D
 
Mr. Vker said:
Just remember....rollover nights don't rollover. :D
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This is why we targeted most of our nights this year to my wife's MR account. It has her at 44 nights at the end of 2012. She is only silver, so will have 34 rollover nights in to 2013. Had we put our other nights to her account instead of mine, she would have been gold and only rolled over 2 or 3 nights.

Once the credit card nights post in early 2013 she will be at 49 and will get at another from the credit card $3000 spend when we pay 2013 MFs in January. So her gold will be through February 2015.

In 2013 and 2014 we will target the nights to my account again since I won't have any rollover nights in to 2013 as I am gold now. I will drop to silver again in 2013. We don't stay at many FS Marriott hotels, so this works best so at least one of us has gold status every year.
 
For the second year in a row I did not have enough nights to qualify for platinum. As I recall there were several other TUGGers in the same spot last year. We were granted platinum status for 2012 as a courtesy from Marriott.

I was told yesterday that I would be granted platinum status again for 2013 as a courtesy from Marriott even though I did not have the 75 nights to qualify. Is there some marketing program running in the background that is causing unqualified people to qualify for platinum status? I appreciate the generocity of Marriott in this instance but wonder about the policy.
 
kjd said:
For the second year in a row I did not have enough nights to qualify for platinum. As I recall there were several other TUGGers in the same spot last year. We were granted platinum status for 2012 as a courtesy from Marriott.

I was told yesterday that I would be granted platinum status again for 2013 as a courtesy from Marriott even though I did not have the 75 nights to qualify. Is there some marketing program running in the background that is causing unqualified people to qualify for platinum status? I appreciate the generocity of Marriott in this instance but wonder about the policy.
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I THINK its based on history and revenue. Not sure its really a marketing program as much as a retention program.
 
dioxide45 said:
This is why we targeted most of our nights this year to my wife's MR account. It has her at 44 nights at the end of 2012. She is only silver, so will have 34 rollover nights in to 2013. Had we put our other nights to her account instead of mine, she would have been gold and only rolled over 2 or 3 nights.

Once the credit card nights post in early 2013 she will be at 49 and will get at another from the credit card $3000 spend when we pay 2013 MFs in January. So her gold will be through February 2015.

In 2013 and 2014 we will target the nights to my account again since I won't have any rollover nights in to 2013 as I am gold now. I will drop to silver again in 2013. We don't stay at many FS Marriott hotels, so this works best so at least one of us has gold status every year.
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I'm not sure I understand your situation, but doesn't the Marriott Rewards nights accumulation end on Dec. 31? My account always resets at 0 a few days after Dec. 31 and any additional nights earned in Jan (from hotel/timeshare stays or credit card earnings) are applied to the next year.

DH & I have decided to put most nights in my account. I've had platinum status for several years. He had a couple of years at plat, but is now at gold status. We don't have enough stays to keep us both at plat. The main reason we don't juggle between accounts like your plan is that I'm pretty close to lifetime platinum. Once I reach that we'll switch our stays to DH's account.

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Marriott used to have a 12 month rolling window for achieving status. For example if you earned 50 nights between March 1, 2011 and Feb. 28, 2012 you qualified for gold status. I thought they did away with this feature of the MR program. Maybe I'm wrong about that? Anyone know the answer to this?
 
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kjd said:
For the second year in a row I did not have enough nights to qualify for platinum. As I recall there were several other TUGGers in the same spot last year. We were granted platinum status for 2012 as a courtesy from Marriott.

I was told yesterday that I would be granted platinum status again for 2013 as a courtesy from Marriott even though I did not have the 75 nights to qualify. Is there some marketing program running in the background that is causing unqualified people to qualify for platinum status? I appreciate the generocity of Marriott in this instance but wonder about the policy.
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There is a discussion about this in Marriott Rewards insiders (in the Marriott website) with a fairly official statement about how this happens -- even though the statement is accompanied by a further statement that the details of who is granted the "courtesy status" will not be disclosed. See response #22 (the paragraph "I Guess We Almost Made It") in the thread "Question Regarding Rollover Nights": http://www.rewards-insiders.marriott.com/thread/11542?start=15&tstart=0
 
Mr. Vker said:
Oh no (Mav not picking on you because it gets complicated)....here come all of the questions and confusion on calculating rollover nights. Flashing back to Algebra I word problems. :D
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This info is from a few older threads:

Silver Elite is 10 Nights, Gold Elite is 50 Nights, Platinum Elite is 75 Nights.

Any Nights which were rolled over from 2011 into 2012 will NOT be rolled over again into 2013. To find out how many you rolled over last year sign in to your marriott.com account and click on "Rewards Account Activity" in the dropdown menu under "My Account," then click on the blue "View Rewards Activity" link. You'll see last year's "Rollover Nights" in the "Nights Earned" box on that page.

The equation to figure out how many will roll over in your account:
Total Nights for 2012,
Less 2011-2012 Rollover Nights,
Less Nights Required for current status (75 Plat, 50 Gold, 10 Silver),
Equals Nights that will rollover to 2013.
 
LAX Mom said:
I'm not sure I understand your situation, but doesn't the Marriott Rewards nights accumulation end on Dec. 31? My account always resets at 0 a few days after Dec. 31 and any additional nights earned in Jan (from hotel/timeshare stays or credit card earnings) are applied to the next year.

DH & I have decided to put most nights in my account. I've had platinum status for several years. He had a couple of years at plat, but is now at gold status. We don't have enough stays to keep us both at plat. The main reason we don't juggle between accounts like your plan is that I'm pretty close to lifetime platinum. Once I reach that we'll switch our stays to DH's account.

Edited to add.....
Marriott used to have a 12 month rolling window for achieving status. For example if you earned 50 nights between March 1, 2011 and Feb. 28, 2012 you qualified for gold status. I thought they did away with this feature of the MR program. Maybe I'm wrong about that? Anyone know the answer to this?
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You're right, they did away with the 12-mos rolling window when they introduced the Rollover Nights promotion. Now it's like you say, Elite Nights are counted on a calendar year basis and everyone starts at zero on Jan 1. But the accounting for Rollover Nights won't show up automatically on Jan 1 - the past few years it's taken them several weeks for all of our info to be updated.
 
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