2011-2012 MR Rollover Nights

SueDonJ · Jan 3, 2012

It's that time again where we'll all be trying to figure out MR status and Rollover Nights for the new year. Here's a post from Marriott Concierge on flyertalk that clarified, after last year's bungling, that any nights which were rolled over from 2010 into 2011 should NOT be counted when figuring out this year's. So the equation is ...

Total Nights for 2011,
Less 2010-2011 Rollover Nights,
Less Nights Required for current status (75 Plat, 50 Gold, 10 Silver),
Equals Nights that will rollover to 2012.

There is also a recent post on flyertalk from someone who received written confirmation of the Rollover Nights promotion being extended into 2013. That's good news if it's true because all the releases last year said something about it being continued "for one more year." I haven't found any confirmation of this from Marriott but will be on the lookout for it.

TheTimeTraveler · Jan 3, 2012

SueDonJ said:
It's that time again where we'll all be trying to figure out MR status and Rollover Nights for the new year. Here's a post from Marriott Concierge on flyertalk that clarified, after last year's bungling, that any nights which were rolled over from 2010 into 2011 should NOT be counted when figuring out this year's. So the equation is ...

Total Nights for 2011,
Less 2010-2011 Rollover Nights,
Less Nights Required for current status (75 Plat, 50 Gold, 10 Silver),
Equals Nights that will rollover to 2012.

There is also a recent post on flyertalk from someone who received written confirmation of the Rollover Nights promotion being extended into 2013. That's good news if it's true because all the releases last year said something about it being continued "for one more year." I haven't found any confirmation of this from Marriott but will be on the lookout for it.

Susan; nice info. Thanks for posting this.

Happy to New Year to all.

.

aka Julie · Jan 3, 2012

My husband was Platinum Elite for 2011. However, he only ended up with 38 nights for 2011, so we thought he would be bumped down to Silver for 2012.

Lo and behold, in today's mail there was a mailing from Marriott saying tho he fell short, they were extending his Platinum status for 2012 and included his new card. Yippee!

dualrated2 · Jan 3, 2012

I received my Platinum card in today's mail and it shows an expiration of "valid thru 2013" which was a nice extension of one year.

The paperwork enclosed also stated that "We're also extending our popular Elite Rollover nights promotion, which means any nights stayed above your renewal level in 2012 will carry over to 2013."

thinze3 · Jan 3, 2012

I am am actually several nights short of platinum, but since I completed the "taste of platinum" successfully, I am supposed to be platinum through 2013. It will be interesting to see how they handle the rollover nights.

Nothing online yet.

mlfrancis · Jan 9, 2012

same for me...

aka Julie said:
My husband was Platinum Elite for 2011. However, he only ended up with 38 nights for 2011, so we thought he would be bumped down to Silver for 2012.

Lo and behold, in today's mail there was a mailing from Marriott saying tho he fell short, they were extending his Platinum status for 2012 and included his new card. Yippee!

I only had 39 nights in 2011; just got the Platinum renewal for 2012 today!

gwhamm · Jan 9, 2012

I got renewed at Platinum last week and had only reached 41 nights last year. Should do better this next year. Got to love it!

rsackett · Jan 9, 2012

65 nights for me, still Gold. Is there any way to look up how many nights rolled over last year?

Ray

SueDonJ · Jan 9, 2012

rsackett said:
65 nights for me, still Gold. Is there any way to look up how many nights rolled over last year?

Ray

Sign in to your marriott.com account, click on "My Account Overview" in the gray "MY ACCOUNT" box, and then click on "Account Activity." The "Rollover Nights" in that "Nights Earned" box will be the number of nights that you rolled over from 2010 into 2011.

sfwilshire · Jan 11, 2012

thinze3 said:
I am am actually several nights short of platinum, but since I completed the "taste of platinum" successfully, I am supposed to be platinum through 2013. It will be interesting to see how they handle the rollover nights.

Nothing online yet.

I've been hoping to get that Platinum renewal letter. I had 74 nights last year.

Sheila

kjd · Jan 12, 2012

Just got platinum renewal with 42 nights. Good till Feb 2013. Would've made the 75 nights except for several cancellations. Not sure why they renewed it except maybe for the amount of credit card spending. Who knows? These reports of renewal seem very random.

jpc763 · Jan 12, 2012

I am Gold and this is my Rewards Activity as of today

So, are these nights what I am starting 2012 with? Do I only need 17 more nights to get Platinum?

Thanks, I am a bit confused!

SueDonJ · Jan 12, 2012

jpc763 said:
I am Gold and this is my Rewards Activity as of today

So, are these nights what I am starting 2012 with? Do I only need 17 more nights to get Platinum?

Thanks, I am a bit confused!

SueDonJ said:
Total Nights for 2011,
Less 2010-2011 Rollover Nights,
Less Nights Required for current status (75 Plat, 50 Gold, 10 Silver),
Equals Nights that will rollover to 2012.

You'll be Gold through 2/13 because that's the status you attained as of 12/11. (Unless you earn Plat status before 2/13, or unless you get one of those random Plat status upgrades.

)

To figure out how many status nights you'll have when the rollover happens:
58 (total nights)
- 21 (2010-11 rollover nights)
= 37
- 50 (required for Gold)
= -13, so you won't carry Rollover Nights into 2012.

jpc763 · Jan 12, 2012

SueDonJ said:
You'll be Gold through 2/13 because that's the status you attained as of 12/11. (Unless you earn Plat status before 2/13, or unless you get one of those random Plat status upgrades. )

To figure out how many status nights you'll have when the rollover happens:
58 (total nights)
- 21 (2010-11 rollover nights)
= 37
- 50 (required for Gold)
= -13, so you won't carry Rollover Nights into 2012.

So can I still attain Platinum with 17 more nights before 12/12?

SueDonJ · Jan 12, 2012

jpc763 said:
So can I still attain Platinum with 17 more nights before 12/12?

No. If your numbers don't change between now and when the rollover happens sometime in the next week or so, you'll be Gold through 2/13 and will have no status nights on your account at the rollover. If you amass 75 nights, what's required for Plat status, at any point prior to 2/13 then you'll become a Plat at that point. (That's going strictly by the numbers. It's possible you'll become Plat through any of the published or unpublished promotions that Marriott offers throughout the year, similar to what others in this thread are reporting.)

When Marriott introduced the Rollover Nights promotion they also discontinued the "rolling calendar" way of counting status nights. If that was still in effect then you could have counted what's in your account now with any others that you amass during a 12-month period. But since Rollover Nights, everybody starts out at zero-plus-eligible-Rollover-Nights (based on that equation above) when the rollover to a new year occurs.

NboroGirl · Jan 12, 2012

I only had 25 nights for 2011, so imagine my surprise when I got a letter from Marriott saying even though we fell short, they were renewing my Gold status, good through 2013:

Nights Earned
Nights Stayed: 25
Bonus Nights Earned: 0
Promotional: 0
Rewards Credit Card: 0
Rewarding Events: 0
Rollover Nights: 0
Total Nights Earned this Year: 25
Total Membership Nights: 156

That's quite a gift! I was bummed when I realized we weren't even going to come close. Especially since we'll be staying at Marriotts for our Italy trip this year. I wonder why they decided to let me keep Gold for another year?

I just noticed this:
50 Nights Needed to Achieve Next Level
25 Nights Needed to Renew Level

So I guess we only need 25 to maintain gold.

SueDonJ · Jan 12, 2012

NboroGirl said:
... That's quite a gift! I was bummed when I realized we weren't even going to come close. Especially since we'll be staying at Marriotts for our Italy trip this year. I wonder why they decided to let me keep Gold for another year?

I just noticed this:
50 Nights Needed to Achieve Next Level
25 Nights Needed to Renew Level

So I guess we only need 25 to maintain gold.

Watch these numbers for changes in the next week or so - they haven't updated our online accounts with year-end stuff yet.

That is a nice gift, you should be able to take advantage of being Gold when you're in Italy with lounge access, breakfast, etc. Very nice!

ada903 · Jan 12, 2012

I don't think they updated my info with 2012 yet - so do I understand it correctly that they will roll anything over 75 (which is 46 nights) into 2012?

Nights Stayed: 106
Bonus Nights Earned: 15
Promotional: 0
Rewards Credit Card: 15
Rewarding Events: 0
Rollover Nights: 0
Total Nights Earned this Year: 121
Total Membership Nights: 121

SueDonJ · Jan 12, 2012

ada903 said:
I don't think they updated my info with 2012 yet - so do I understand it correctly that they will roll anything over 75 (which is 46 nights) into 2012?

Nights Stayed: 106
Bonus Nights Earned: 15
Promotional: 0
Rewards Credit Card: 15
Rewarding Events: 0
Rollover Nights: 0
Total Nights Earned this Year: 121
Total Membership Nights: 121

Yes. You didn't have any 2010-2011 Rollover Nights in your account, so all the nights you earned over the 75 required for Plat will rollover this year. You'll be a Plat through 2/13 and will start out this year with 46 Rollover Nights. That combined with whatever you'll earn with the VISA card next year is a VERY good start towards earning the 75 total you'll need to remain a Plat beyond 2/13. And who knows? You may be upgraded through a promotion like others in this thread to whatever is higher than Plat.

dioxide45 · Jan 12, 2012

SueDonJ said:
No. If your numbers don't change between now and when the rollover happens sometime in the next week or so, you'll be Gold through 2/13 and will have no status nights on your account at the rollover. If you amass 75 nights, what's required for Plat status, at any point prior to 2/13 then you'll become a Plat at that point. (That's going strictly by the numbers. It's possible you'll become Plat through any of the published or unpublished promotions that Marriott offers throughout the year, similar to what others in this thread are reporting.)

I don't think that nights stayed between Jan 1 and the end of Feb count toward 2011 nights stayed. They just don't change ones status to allow for any true 2011 nights to post. So any nights stayed between now and the end of February won't help renew or attain platinum based on 2011 nights.

SueDonJ · Jan 12, 2012

You know, I vaguely remember something about DC Points purchasers getting automatic MR status if they buy a certain amount of Points - maybe in a thread about sales presentations. I don't remember exactly and can't find it in a TUG search. Hmmmm. I wonder if they're secretly using timeshare ownership as a requirement for Plat promotions? It seems like this thread is showing Plat upgrades happening to more folks than in other years. Maybe it is the timeshares. :shrug:

dioxide45 · Jan 12, 2012

SueDonJ said:
You know, I vaguely remember something about DC Points purchasers getting automatic MR status if they buy a certain amount of Points -

I first reported it in this thread. Didn't garner much interest.

dioxide45 · Jan 12, 2012

SueDonJ said:
You know, I vaguely remember something about DC Points purchasers getting automatic MR status if they buy a certain amount of Points - maybe in a thread about sales presentations. I don't remember exactly and can't find it in a TUG search. Hmmmm. I wonder if they're secretly using timeshare ownership as a requirement for Plat promotions? It seems like this thread is showing Plat upgrades happening to more folks than in other years. Maybe it is the timeshares.

We are gold and had 31 nights in 2011, no notice of renewing our gold for us yet. We are just Standard Owners, you may be on to something.

SueDonJ · Jan 12, 2012

SueDonJ said:
No. If your numbers don't change between now and when the rollover happens sometime in the next week or so, you'll be Gold through 2/13 and will have no status nights on your account at the rollover. If you amass 75 nights, what's required for Plat status, at any point prior to 2/13 then you'll become a Plat at that point. (That's going strictly by the numbers. It's possible you'll become Plat through any of the published or unpublished promotions that Marriott offers throughout the year, similar to what others in this thread are reporting.)

dioxide45 said:
I don't think that nights stayed between Jan 1 and the end of Feb count toward 2011 nights stayed. They just don't change ones status to allow for any true 2011 nights to post. So any nights stayed between now and the end of February won't help renew or attain platinum based on 2011 nights.

It's so hard to explain all this in a way that doesn't cause misunderstanding. I know that 12/31 is the cut-off date for earning Nights in a calendar year. But what I was trying to say to jpc is that if s/he doesn't earn any other nights before the accounts are updated sometime in the next week or so, then when the account is updated s/he'll be Gold with 0 Nights on the account and will remain Gold through Feb '13. With 0 Nights on the account then s/he'll have to earn 75 Nights to reach Plat. If Nights are earned now before the year-end rollover is processed then they would show in the 2012 account, and the base s/he works with at the time of the year-end rollover will not be 0. Hopefully this is easier to understand.

SueDonJ · Jan 12, 2012

dioxide45 said:
I first reported it in this thread. Didn't garner much interest.

Thanks!

2011-2012 MR Rollover Nights

SueDonJ

TheTimeTraveler

aka Julie

dualrated2

thinze3

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mlfrancis

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gwhamm

rsackett

SueDonJ

sfwilshire

TUG Review Crew: Expert

kjd

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jpc763

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SueDonJ

NboroGirl

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SueDonJ

ada903

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dioxide45

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