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At Westin Riverfront Villas

TDS

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Thought I'd post a review from the Riverfront Villas. I haven't seen much chatter about the resort on TUG - Tuggers seem more inclined to be beach people more so that ski people!

I didn't realize until getting here how small the villas part of the resort is - there are only 34 2 Br L/O units here. I made our reservation within 1 week of the 8 month reservation window. The villas are right next to the hotel, but not attached. You have to go outside (about 50 feet, its not an inconvenience) to get to the hotel. Villas guests have full access to all hotel amenities.

We are in a 1 Br Premium unit and its very similar to the newer floor plan at WDW, with a couple of positive differences. There is quite a bit more room near door to the deck along the outside wall. I'm not sure if this is because we have an end unit, but we appreciate the space because we have our 10 yr old with us sleeping on the pull out and it is much easier to move the coffee table out the way. It doesn't feel crowded with the bed opened at all.

Also, the fireplace/TV unit is less obtrusive - fire place doesn't seem to stick out into the living room like it does at WDW. And there is a floor to ceiling wardrobe next the TV. Very handy when someone is using the living room as a bedroom like we are.

Rest of the unit is very similar to other Starwood villas. Only other key difference is that the door for the L/O is near the external wall instead of by the kitchen/entrance. I like this design - this also contributes to the extra space in the living room. Also, the dining table is square instead of rectangular. It has 2 chairs on two sides and leather benches on the other two sides. A subtle difference from other resorts, but a nice design.

For skiers, the place is fantastic. The Riverfront gondola is immediately outside the door from the villas. Four minute ride and drops you off steps from the express lift at Beaver Creek Landing. There is a ski valet in the hotel (also right next to the gondola) that provides complimentary ski equipment storage. Equipment (other than boots) isn't allowed in the villas.

Haven't used many of the hotel amenities, but did hit the hot tub after skiing today. There are three large outdoor infinity hot tubs which can comfortably accommodate 10+ people each. There is also a heated lap pool that can be used year-round.

Didn't use the gym, but it is very large - free weights and lots of machines (stationary bikes, treadmills, ellipticals).

Live music every night (at least during ski season) in the lobby bar. Staff have been very friendly and quick to help. Called Service Express twice with a couple of requests and they were both addressed within 5 minutes.

The resort was recently named the #1 ski resort by readers of Conde Nast, I'm a little surprised by that considering all of the great ski resorts around, but have been here 3 days and don't have single complaint. Doesn't hurt that its MLK week and lift lines were nonexistent. Skied all over the mountain and waited greater than 1 minute at only one lift all day. And now its snowing! :)
 
Thanks for the first official TUG review! :) If you are willing to share some pictures, I would be forever grateful! We almost bought at WRF and kinda wish we did at some point.

Katherine
 
We visited WRV last fall for 4 nights with some leftover StarOptions. It is just as TDS described. The free underground parking is a huge plus although we had problems with our room key opening the gates and had to call for assistance twice. The Villa parking is right by the elevator so it was very easy to enter and exit.

We loved Happy Hour. The food was very reasonable and pretty good. The views from the restaurant and the impressive lobby are fabulous. It appeared that all of the rooms have a mountain view although the slope side view is probably the best. The opposite side has mountain views across the valley. Vail Valley has lots of restaurants to choose from and a nice supermarket is just a couple blocks away from the resort.

The Spa at the Westin Hotel is gorgeous and offered "2 for 1" massages ($125.00) during the off season (which we took advantage of). It was one of the best massages ever! There was a spa fee (around $50.00) added on which included the tip for both therapists.

We found the staff to be very accommodating and friendly. The owner's update was actually very informative but still totally sales oriented, of course. It was tempting because we live within 2 hours and could have retro-ed our SDO but said "no". The MF's are fairly high but it was worth attending for 10,000 StarPoints (although we have not been credited yet...)

We ended up purchasing a resale WKV (which should close soon) and look forward to returning to WRV using SO's. I have not seen any II availability for WRV yet although they may be sold out now from the developer. The sales rep said that only a few units remained due to the "sale" prices offered (a TUG post showed identical prices). It will be interesting to see if any WRV units come onto the resale market soon.
 
It's good to hear more about a Colorado property. They don't get mentioned a lot here on TUG.
 
Steamboat vs Vail???

been debating a Colorado purchase...Steamboat doesn't have L/Os but better pricing...Can fly direct from Houston to Steamboat and that is a big plus

any other opinions??
 
I'm not sure how much I'd value non-stop service to Steamboat, because the airlines tend to start and stop it from year to year. I'm certain, for instance, that there used to be non-stop service to Vail/Eagle from Houston.

Thanks for the great review, TDS!
 
I'm not sure how much I'd value non-stop service to Steamboat, because the airlines tend to start and stop it from year to year. I'm certain, for instance, that there used to be non-stop service to Vail/Eagle from Houston.

And depending on the weather they are quick to delay service. I flew to Steamboat years ago on United, and while there was a beautiful day in Denver, the wind was too much for them to fly. They kept us at the airport for many hours until they arranged for buses to take all the flights of the day (at least those starting around 10am) to go the 4-hour drive (well, that's what it took) to Steamboat. Instead of arriving at 4pm in plenty of time for a Passover sedar (and I had the freshly made Macaroons for the dinner!) I got there at 11pm. It's one of those trips I will always remember since United completely goofed at every opportunity. After a few hours of waiting, still early in the day, a few of us from the flight considered renting a car and driving up, but United kept saying not to leave, since they would fly in the "next hour".

That said, I love the area and want to visit WRV. Sounds like a great ski destination!
 
been debating a Colorado purchase...Steamboat doesn't have L/Os but better pricing...Can fly direct from Houston to Steamboat and that is a big plus

any other opinions??

I've been skiing in the Rockies for 30+ years and think that the Vail/Beaver Creek area is the absolute best combination of tremendous skiing with great alpine village feel, easy transport and great dining. There aren't many first class TS properties in the Vail Valley but a few to consider:

Four Seasons (just opened in Vail/Lionshead and very unlikely to ever get a ski-season trade into....probably next to impossible)

Westin Riverfront (mentioned and reviewed above)

You can fly direct into Eagle (Vail) from various cities including Dallas and Chicago but the drive from Denver isn't that bad.

Lakeside Terrace (also a Starwood managed resort) Small property that is really just a couple condo buildings. Very nice and residential feel (with access to the huge Avon rec center while staying on-property).

Sheraton Mountain Vista (also Starwood) and next door to Lakeside Terrace.
 
been debating a Colorado purchase...Steamboat doesn't have L/Os but better pricing...Can fly direct from Houston to Steamboat and that is a big plus

any other opinions??

I've stayed at both the steamboat sheraton villas and the westin riverfront villas. Both are very nice. The steamboat villas are nicer and much bigger, and the steamboat location is much better in terms of view (look out directly on the slopes) and in terms of proximity to skiing (walk out the door onto the slopes).

In terms of the towns, Beavercreek is a fake, but luxurious, alpine village whereas steamboat is an actual western town.

By the way, there is a lot of new development in steamboat. I was there over christmas and there was a new luxury development and nice high-end restaurant (truffle pig) at the base, both of which were new from two ski seasons ago.

One other point of comparison: steamboat has two very nice sit-down restaurants located on mountain whereas beaver creek you have to ski down to the base to eat at a nice restaurant.
 
Did an Owner Update Tuesday night and got some info on both WRF and Steamboat. They said that WRF is nearly sold out - they expect to be sold out within a few weeks. Sure, it sounds like a sales tactic, but not sure that it was because they didn't even try to sell us WRF (didn't get current pricing or incentives) because it wouldn't meet our goals. We told them upfront that we expect to buy something resale and requalify it with one last purchase to achieve 5 Star. Buying WRF this week wouldn't achieve that since we don't have a unit to requalify yet.

What they tried to sell us was Steamboat - 3BR Ski Season, Valley View. It has 196,900 StarOptions and would have put us at 5 Star now. Price was $51,900 with 130,000 Starpoints and an added 196,100 StarOptions for 2012. The maintenance fees on the unit are only $1250 per year - that's got to be the best MF:StarOption ratio in SVN.

Making reservations at Steamboat as a non-owner during ski season - particularly spring break or holiday weekends - will be tough. I believe there are only 21 units at the location. WRF won't be easy either with only 34 units here - both places will likely require making reservations right at the 8 month mark.

In the end, we said no to the Steamboat offer. By the way, the sales pitch was not high pressure at all (unlike that being discussed in another active thread about SVV). Once they knew our goals, they pitched something that would get us there, but when we said "no", that was it...no games trying to get us to change our mind. It was all very friendly.
 
One other point of comparison: steamboat has two very nice sit-down restaurants located on mountain whereas beaver creek you have to ski down to the base to eat at a nice restaurant.

This isn't quite accurate. Try eating at the Ritz-Carlton some time at BC - right on the slopes and outstanding. The bar menu isn't even all that pricey for slopeside. As an added bonus, it's on your way home if you're staying at the Westin.
 
What they tried to sell us was Steamboat - 3BR Ski Season, Valley View. It has 196,900 StarOptions and would have put us at 5 Star now. Price was $51,900 with 130,000 Starpoints and an added 196,100 StarOptions for 2012. The maintenance fees on the unit are only $1250 per year - that's got to be the best MF:StarOption ratio in SVN.

I wonder how long that MF:SO ratio will last...
 
Did an Owner Update Tuesday night and got some info on both WRF and Steamboat. ....What they tried to sell us was Steamboat - 3BR Ski Season, Valley View. ....

For anyone that has stayed at the Sheraton Steamboat, could you comment on the "Valley" view, winter and summer?
 
Fulfilling SDKath's request for a few pics from WRF, I've posted some at http://tdstravel.shutterfly.com/. Pics are from inside the villa, the Riverfront Gondola courtyard and the view from our villa's deck this morning.
 
This isn't quite accurate. Try eating at the Ritz-Carlton some time at BC - right on the slopes and outstanding. The bar menu isn't even all that pricey for slopeside. As an added bonus, it's on your way home if you're staying at the Westin.

I eat there almost everyday for lunch when we ski beaver creek, but the Ritz is at the base of bachelor gulch. You have to ski all the way to the bottom of the mountain, and then wait in the big queue and take multiple lifts to get to any the good advanced terrain. At steamboat you can have a nice sit down meal at ragners, which is near the top of the mountain or at hazies, which is mid mountain.
 
I see your point and agree with it.

Although I have to say any serious line at the Bachelor lift is fairly rare in my experience. But you're correct, it's off the beaten path for advance terrain.
 
Did an Owner Update Tuesday night and got some info on both WRF and Steamboat. They said that WRF is nearly sold out - they expect to be sold out within a few weeks. Sure, it sounds like a sales tactic, but not sure that it was because they didn't even try to sell us WRF (didn't get current pricing or incentives) because it wouldn't meet our goals. We told them upfront that we expect to buy something resale and requalify it with one last purchase to achieve 5 Star. Buying WRF this week wouldn't achieve that since we don't have a unit to requalify yet.

What they tried to sell us was Steamboat - 3BR Ski Season, Valley View. It has 196,900 StarOptions and would have put us at 5 Star now. Price was $51,900 with 130,000 Starpoints and an added 196,100 StarOptions for 2012. The maintenance fees on the unit are only $1250 per year - that's got to be the best MF:StarOption ratio in SVN.

Making reservations at Steamboat as a non-owner during ski season - particularly spring break or holiday weekends - will be tough. I believe there are only 21 units at the location. WRF won't be easy either with only 34 units here - both places will likely require making reservations right at the 8 month mark.

In the end, we said no to the Steamboat offer. By the way, the sales pitch was not high pressure at all (unlike that being discussed in another active thread about SVV). Once they knew our goals, they pitched something that would get us there, but when we said "no", that was it...no games trying to get us to change our mind. It was all very friendly.

TDS- We were given the exact sales pitch last November! The Riverfront units were almost gone and "wont last until the end of the month" then, the same 3 BR Steamboat unit had "just shown up on the computer"...

Steamboat is awesome but really crowded during peak seasons. We prefer Breckenridge and chose to live near there part-time. It is crowded as well but the driving and parking is easier in town and closer to DIA. Lots of stuff to do all year and the area is close to Copper Mountain, Vail, etc. The slopes are more moderate but we recently read about plans for a new mountain with more extreme skiing/boarding. Mud season (spring thaw) is the least desirable time to be in the mountains as evidenced by the availability in II... Some of the business owners take their vacations during mud season and close shop.
 
We'll try to answer this:
For anyone that has stayed at the Sheraton Steamboat, could you comment on the "Valley" view, winter and summer?

We can't tell you about winter, but we did stay in the 3 bedroom valley view during the summer. The unit over looks the front entrance/drive way and the hotel part of the resort. It also has distant views of the condos. It's not a fabulous view, but it isn't impossibly bad either. If I remember correctly, you can see the ski slope from the window of one of the smaller bedrooms.

Though we never saw the 3 bedroom slope side unit, we also stayed in the 2 bedroom unit which is slope side. In our opinion, the slope side units have a much better view because you have an unobstructed view of the mountain. You can also see the condos on either side of the slope, plus the chair lift behind the resort. (The gondola is an easy walk from the hotel, but it is not visible from either the 2 bedroom or the 3 bedroom valley view units.)

When we were there last summer, we were told a stream originally ran behind the property but it was redirected underground years ago. The purpose of the construction behind the resort was to bring the stream to its original location. Then, the land would be landscaped, making the view even more beautiful.

The 2 bedroom unit and the 3 bedroom valley view unit were both similarly furnished, so we are sure the 3 bedroom slopeside unit is equally beautiful. The timeshares are in a different building than the hotel, and the timeshares have their own elevator. There are only 3 timeshare units on each floor (3 bedroom slope side, 3 bedroom valley view, and 2 bedroom) for a total of 21 timeshare units in the resort (if we remember correctly, though it might be 24). Because the timeshare is so small, The timeshares have their own hot tubs on the roof, but the pool, gym, game room, etc. are shared with the hotel. The resort has a 2 level underground parking garage that was also shared with the hotel. On the weekend we arrived, the parking lot was so full that we had to drive around until we saw someone leave to find a parking space. By Monday, the hotel must have cleared out (or maybe it was a special function like a wedding that took up all the spots) because the garage was practically empty after that.

If this doesn't answer your question, please send a PM, and we will try to help you.

George and Donna
 
We own 2 Bedroom at Steamboat Sheraton. We purchased every other year for around $27,000 back in 2008 when it first opened. In fact, when we bought, they had not even started redooing the hotel or the timeshares. Got the useal boatload of starpoints, etc. We had stayed several years a the hotel before then, and enjoyed Steamboat.


Our purchase price included a 'lock' fixed option on Presidents Week. I am guaranteed that week every year. I had the option to buy the other half of every other year, but declined due to the economy and total fear of acquiring any additional timeshares. I believe they no longer allowed me to fix the week... which made the offer far less attractive.

I feel like this timeshare is going to be okay, because President's week rents very well and is not too difficult to sell to cover around $3,000 to $4,000. Easily covering maintenance fees and time value of investment. The price was the same as other weeks, and far cheaper than Christmas / New Years. Hence, I feel like I got the best possible deal at the time.

The views from the unit are awesome. The ski-in / ski-out is about as good as it gets anywhere. While Steamboat is not Vale or as "posh" as Deer Valley and other areas.. it has great skiing and wonderful family atmosphere. I like that there are few, if any, day skiiers from Denver... and even on President's Week, the crowds are very modest.

If you do not own at Steamboat, due to SVO's fixed options, the actual number of units available for staroptions trade during peak weeks is even less than you think! What makes owning at Resorts like Steamboat at peak weeks so attractive... is that owners in non-peak weeks and shoulder seasons share the same maintenance fees.
 
Can people staying at the Sheraton Mountain Villas also use the Avon rec center?
Babs
 
Can people staying at the Sheraton Mountain Villas also use the Avon rec center?
Babs

Not specifically as a guest at WRF. Maybe its possible to buy a guest pass, but I didn't ask about this. I believe its the same at SMV. But access to the Avon Rec Center is provided to guests at Lakeside Terrace because there are no onsite gym facilities.
 
Not specifically as a guest at WRF. Maybe its possible to buy a guest pass, but I didn't ask about this. I believe its the same at SMV. But access to the Avon Rec Center is provided to guests at Lakeside Terrace because there are no onsite gym facilities.

From what I've seen the Avon Rec center's facilities are much better than the Mountain Vista facilities so having free access to the Rec center is a very nice benefit for Lakeside Terrace guests.
 
Avon Rec Center is Free for Lakeside Terrace

I have owned at Lakeside Terrace for several years. The Avon Rec Center is included in ownership, exchange, StarOptions use or rental at Lakeside Terrace. We always enjoy our visits to Avon. There are some great restaurants there including Avondale at the Westin and Vin48. We also enjoy the "everyday" atmosphere of the sports bar at Bob's Place.
 
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