Do you plan to or have you enrolled in the new points program?

Please vote.

No, will not enroll.

Multi-week owners - have enrolled, but not yet traded for any points. Thinking it over -doing the math.

No. With us just owning one EOY year Marriott lockoff and owning other timeshares besides Marriott, I didn't want to have to pay for two II accounts.

Yes joined single week owner,

Is there an option to buy some points and not enroll your week(s)?

Charles

CMF said:

Is there an option to buy some points and not enroll your week(s)?

Charles

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Charles,
I suppose you could do that but why would you? From what I understand they waive your enrollment fee, or at least the first $700 if you're a resale owner, when you buy the intro points package. You can't buy less than the current intro package offer the first time.

Even if they would sell you 1 BI (250 points), what would you do with that if you didn't have enrolled points to combine them?

I joined and enrolled all weeks. So far I have made three reservations using the enrolled points at trust resorts without a problem. All my weeks were developer bought.

I enrolled three (developer) weeks, have converted one for 2011 Points and have two reservations - 6 nights and 5 nights - with Points leftover for another few nights sometime.

The rollout was made more confusing than it needed to be by Marriott, IMO, but now that some time has passed and we're seeing it in action I'm pretty positive about how the DC will expand our options. It's certainly easy to understand, though, why some will choose to not enroll - some Weeks just work better in the old system.

No, I have 2 developer weeks, one that we use every year, one that we trade every year and one resale week that is not eligible for DVC points (bought after 06/30/10). I don't see the value joining right now for just one developer week since I can't enroll my resale week. If Marriott changes their rules re: resale weeks bought after 06/30 I'd thinking about joining.

we enrolled 5 weeks - 3 developer and 2 resale since our priorities have changed over the years.

we have another 5 weeks not with Marriott, and we may pick up another Marriott bargain week just so the other II membership gets back the Marriott owner bonus

We joined to reduce the fees we typically incurred. However, we do not plan to convert our 4 weeks (3 w/lockoff) to points.

I voted no, but I would reconsider if they reduce/waive the enrollment fee or offer more than 800 points to join. I'm breaking even on the fees savings after about 12 years not counting the time value of money.

Multi-week owner will not join.

If the operator of this exchange was not named Marriott I believe that, given the merits alone, enrollment would be close to zero... I see no point in paying an outrageous enrollment fee to join an exchange that gives me the possibility of trading down only, without even having the ability to "request first"...

You really want to know?

No !:annoyed:

Europe, Asia and US/Caribbean owners

We could certainly see benefits in enrolling (without necessarily converting), if only the scheme really addressed owners like us of weeks in Europe and Asia as well as US/Caribbean.
PerryM has kindly demonstrated an advantage for us even just enrolling our US/Caribbean weeks, but this would be limited and we would still have to pay all our personal II account fees for managing our Europe and Asia resort weeks.
Oh for a simple, global solution from Marriott - please.

Haved not joined, bought developer, most, if not all my trades over the years have been for larger units. Owning a lock off that you split all the time to larger units, i see no reason to join.

Undecided

jimf41 said:

Charles,
I suppose you could do that but why would you? From what I understand they waive your enrollment fee, or at least the first $700 if you're a resale owner, when you buy the intro points package. You can't buy less than the current intro package offer the first time.

Even if they would sell you 1 BI (250 points), what would you do with that if you didn't have enrolled points to combine them?

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I have not given this detailed thought. We have an encore presentation scheduled for August and they will apply the $2000 we paid for the encore program to our points purchase should we buy at that time. If we buy, I will enroll what weeks I can at no charge and buy maybe the minimum amount of points. I will put it all under the magnifying glass as time nears.

My poll answer is UNDECIDED.

Charles

I'm probably joining

Purely fees

Here's the fee comparison:

Year 1 - Continue with II

4 x $109 = $436 in exchange fees

1 x $75 = $75 in lockoff fees

1 x $89 = $89 in membership


Total Year 1 cash outlay if I stay in II = $600


Year 1 - Enroll in DClub

1 x $695 = $695 Initiation Fee

1 x $199 = $199 Membership fee

Total Year 1 cash outlay if I enroll = $894


Year 1 excess of Dclub over II = $294


But -- I get 800 pluspoints for that $294 which equals $0.368 per pluspoint. That's within the range of what I believe one time use points are probably worth. And assumes I can use them -- which I can.

(Change fees and other similar fees that are part of the bundled membership fee are not included as it is not certain they be incurred. They would skew the calculation in my favor anyway. I have not considered the II prepaid individual membership fee that I will get either refunded or an A/C. That skews the other way.)

In year 2 if nothing changes I save $401.

So I pretty much break even instantly and look forward to fee savings of $400 per year. And if necessary I can walk on day 2 and still be at least even.

I know I'm giving my vote to Marriott in all matters involving DClub. They can and will probably do whatever they want anyway, whether or not my vote is for them or against them.

DH wants to join for the fee savings. We'll break even in 2 1/2 - 3 years and don't see ourselves trading in points, but will continue with weeks as we have been.

Ingrid

Will not join. We cannot get the value through DC with our Gold weeks that we've been getting through II by locking off and trading up. Hope that doesn't change but time will tell.

IngridN said:

DH wants to join for the fee savings. We'll break even in 2 1/2 - 3 years and don't see ourselves trading in points, but will continue with weeks as we have been.

Ingrid

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My advice to Hubby. In 3 years Marriott will raise fees, thus you will always be chasing the fee savings.

We only trade our weeks international and not domestic so there's no point in us joining.

We enrolled into the new DC system mainly to:
1) keep our options open in the future (e.g. convert TS annual week use to DC pts, purchase/sell DC points, to-be-determined promotions, etc.) - sort of an 'insurance' to protect the value of our direct-developer purchased TS
and
2) save on annual fees (II due, II exchange, TS annual week-to-MRP conversion, etc.).

BTW, I think we have already broken even on our enrollment fee through the reservation of five nightly stays (both Newport Coast Villas and Timber Lodge) use of our 800 Bonus Plus points and supplement points (purchased and gifted), about two years faster than initially anticipated, so the enrollment fee is now a mute point for us.

luvmypt said:

We only trade our weeks international and not domestic so there's no point in us joining.

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I would question this reason since membership includes II so you wouldn't pay that yearly, and you would also not pay an exchange fee.

Now, if you bought resale with the larger initiation fee, that would be another thing. As we have gotten older, we first stopped international travel, except the Caribbean, then Hawaii, and this year to the West Coast, but you could be a lot younger than we are and not change your travel style for many years.