2016 Maintenance Fees thread

scootr5 · Nov 11, 2015

In following Cynthia's nicely laid out thread from last year, the 2016 fees should soon be available on the Wyndham website. I just received a mailing from Grand Desert with the approved budget.

Please put the resort name/phase in the body of your post rather than the thread title. If you're reading on a mobile device using tapatalk or forumrunner you don't see thread titles so you have no idea what resort people are talking about. it's only when people look via an actual web browser that they're visible.

They should soon be posted on the clubwyndham.com website under the category MY MEMBERSHIP - click on Financial Services. Step 2, click on Club Wyndham Plus Assessments. Step 3, click on Printed Statements to view; look for Column 5 - HOA Rate Per 1,000 Points.

Previous threads with Maintenance fees for Reference purposes:
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201233
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220076

Please Post Using this format - there is no need to post your actual maintenance fees that you pay - just the rate for the resort

(rate per 1,000 pts)

2016 RESORT NAME _________?
Maintenance Fees $ X
Reserve Fund $ X
Property Tax $ X
TOTAL $ X

Example:
2016 Grand Desert Towers 1 & 2
Maintenance Fees $3.57
Reserve Fund $0.74
Property Tax $0.12
TOTAL $4.43

Vacationfuntips · Nov 11, 2015

scootr5 said:
In following Cynthia's nicely laid out thread from last year, the 2016 fees should soon be available on the Wyndham website. I just received a mailing from Grand Desert with the approved budget.

Please put the resort name/phase in the body of your post rather than the thread title. If you're reading on a mobile device using tapatalk or forumrunner you don't see thread titles so you have no idea what resort people are talking about. it's only when people look via an actual web browser that they're visible.

They should soon be posted on the clubwyndham.com website under the category MY MEMBERSHIP - click on Financial Services. Step 2, click on Club Wyndham Plus Assessments. Step 3, click on Printed Statements to view; look for Column 5 - HOA Rate Per 1,000 Points.

Previous threads with Maintenance fees for Reference purposes:
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201233
http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220076

Please Post Using this format - there is no need to post your actual maintenance fees that you pay - just the rate for the resort

(rate per 1,000 pts)

2016 RESORT NAME _________?
Maintenance Fees $ X
Reserve Fund $ X
Property Tax $ X
TOTAL $ X

Example:
2016 Grand Desert Towers 1 & 2
Maintenance Fees $3.57
Reserve Fund $0.74
Property Tax $0.12
TOTAL $4.43

Thank you scootr5

What a GREAT IDEA!!!

Hopefully, when those maintenance fee bills come out soon, we can each submit information for Club Wyndham.

Wyndham HOA Maintenance Fees are out and are posted at www.myclubwyndham.com
You can view maintenance fees on the website under the category MY MEMBERSHIP - click on Financial Services. Step 2, click on Club Wyndham Plus Assessments. Step 3, click on Printed Statements to view. Look for the 11/30/15 Statement Print Date and Step 4, click View/Download to view yours. You will see your 2016 Annual Club Wyndham Plus Assessment Summary. Look for Column 5 - HOA Rate Per 1,000 Points.

** ADD ON THE PROGRAM FEE
Note that: The rate used in calculating the program fee is based upon the total points allocated to a member and not individual contracts.

Please Post Using this format - there is no need to post your actual maintenance fees that you pay - just the rate for the resort

(rate per 1,000 pts)

2016 RESORT NAME _________?
Maintenance Fees ______?
Reserve Fund _______?
Property Tax _____ ?
TOTAL $ ______ + **Add on the Program Fee

Cynthia T.

OutSkiing · Nov 27, 2015

My Online Wyndham statement is available for 2016 now. It was posted online on 11/25/2015. Here are my numbers:

2016 Wyndham Vacation Resorts at National Harbor:
Maintenance Fees $2.94
Reserve Fund $0.54
Property Tax $0.46
TOTAL $3.94 **

2016 Wyndham Ocean Boulevard:
Maintenance Fees $3.26
Reserve Fund $1.05
Property Tax $0.23
TOTAL $4.54 **

2016 Club Wyndham Access:
Maintenance Fees $5.14
Reserve Fund n/a
Property Tax n/a
TOTAL $5.14 **

** Plus program fee of $0.57 per thousand (may vary for smaller accounts)

scootr5 · Nov 27, 2015

Smoky Mountains and South Shore

In addition to the aforementioned Grand Desert (1.8% increase), here are my others:

2016 Smoky Mountains (Governors Crossing 1)
Maintenance Fees $3.68
Reserve Fund $1.05
Property Tax $0.11
TOTAL $4.84
3.4% increase

2016 South Shore
Maintenance Fees $2.99
Reserve Fund $0.62
Property Tax $0.11
TOTAL $3.72
0.80% increase

Vacationfuntips · Nov 27, 2015

Thank you for your post. Yes, mine is posted up now on the website too at www.myclubwyndham.com

My statement is dated 11/27/15 for the 2016 Annual Assessment. It was posted earlier than it was last year. Remember to add on your Program Fee. I always add on my program fee to my maintenance fees to figure out what I am really paying per 1,000 pts.

**PROGRAM FEES 2016**

Members with Plus Partners $0.57 per 1,000 pts. or a minimum Program Fee of $147.00 per year, whichever is greater.
Members without Plus Partners $0.55 per 1,000 pts. or a minimum Program Fee charge of $128.00 per year, whichever is greater.
Club Wyndham Presidential Reserve $0.63 per 1,000 pts. for the first 1 million points, then $0.57 per 1,000 points for the remaining points owned under the membership.

(rate per 1,000 pts)

2016 Wyndham Bonnet Creek (Towers 3 & 5)
Maintenance Fees $3.67
Reserve Fund $0.86
Property Tax $0.84
TOTAL $5.37

**PLUS **Add on the Program Fee

Per 1000 points:
With Plus Partners it comes out to $5.94
Without Plus Partners it comes out to $5.92
For Presidential Reserve it is $6.00 for the 1st million points after that you add $5.94 for the remaining points that you have in your acct.

2016 Wyndham Smoky Mountains (Governer's Crossing II)
Maintenance Fees $ 3.59
Reserve Fund $ 0.97
Property Tax $ 0.11
TOTAL $4.67
**PLUS **Add on the Program Fee

Per 1000 points:
With Plus Partners it comes out to $5.24
Without Plus Partners it comes out to $5.22
For Presidential Reserve it is $5.30 for the 1st million points after that you add $5.24 for the remaining points that you have in your acct.

Keep on posting...

Cynthia T.

markb53 · Nov 28, 2015

club Wyndham Access
Maintenance fee $5.14 per 1000 points
Plus program Fee

Panama City Beach
Maintenance Fee $3.28
Reserve fund $.51
Property tax $.17
Total. $3.96
Plus program fee

Program fee without plus partners is $.55 per 1000 points with $128.00 minimum
Program fee with plus partners is $.57 per 1000 points with $147.00 minimum

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geerlijd · Nov 28, 2015

Wyndham Bali Hai
Maintenance Fee $2.96
Reserve Fund: $0.39
Total: $3.35 (2.4% increase)

Wyndham Canterbury
Maintenance Fee: $2.63
Reserve Fund: $0.40
Property Tax: $0.34
Total: $3.37 (2.1% increase)

scootr5 · Nov 28, 2015

markb53 said:
club Wyndham Access
Maintenance fee $5.14 per 1000 points

Only a 5.1% increase. I honestly thought it would be a little more with all of the ovation properties taken in.

Michael1991 · Nov 28, 2015

scootr5 said:
Only a 5.1% increase. I honestly thought it would be a little more with all of the ovation properties taken in.

Bluegreen increase is 2.7%
Diamond increase is 4.1%

I'm thinking 5.1 is a bit high

scootr5 · Nov 28, 2015

I didn't mean it wasn't high, only that I expected it to be even more.

spackler · Nov 28, 2015

Inflation rate in the US was essentially 0% so far in 2015. Even a 2-4% increase in maintenance fees should be considered steep.

Joe33426 · Nov 28, 2015

La Belle Maison

2016 RESORT NAME La Belle Maison
Maintenance Fees $ 3.87
Reserve Fund $ .89
Property Tax $ .22
TOTAL $ 4.98

Ty1on · Nov 28, 2015

spackler said:
Inflation rate in the US was essentially 0% so far in 2015. Even a 2-4% increase in maintenance fees should be considered steep.

How many years has it been since CWA had a significant increase?

scootr5 · Nov 28, 2015

spackler said:
Inflation rate in the US was essentially 0% so far in 2015. Even a 2-4% increase in maintenance fees should be considered steep.

Sure, but that would imply some real-world correlation to what Wyn does.....

raygo123 · Nov 28, 2015

scootr5 said:
Sure, but that would imply some real-world correlation to what Wyn does.....

I believe it's Ovation is the correlation. People who are on tug the first time, want out. Thank God I found you. Recommended: Ovation. The other extreme is Westgate. Time spent with Wyndham first timer versus the time spent with other systems or resorts!

There has to be a contract with HOA, reduced MF
Till sold. For Wyndham possible reduced MF. For HOA, nds litigations that were pending for HOA. For owners, money back guarantee ( ) NYC guarantee, 5 minutes or 5 feet. Sorry, in my opinion it is a win wyn situation. It's a form of capital lite.

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markb53 · Nov 29, 2015

Ty1on said:
How many years has it been since CWA had a significant increase?

I've owned CWA for 4 years and it has gone from 4.87 to 5.14 for a total of 5.6% increase for an average of 1.4% per year. I don't think that is unreasonable.

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markb53 · Nov 29, 2015

spackler said:
Inflation rate in the US was essentially 0% so far in 2015. Even a 2-4% increase in maintenance fees should be considered steep.

It is true that in the last 5 years my salary hasn't increased by much. But just about everything I spend money on has gone up. From my health, auto, and home owners insurance. To what it costs to heat my house. To the groceries I buy. The reason the inflation rate is flat is because the labor cost is flat or down, and it balances out the increases in other costs. My dollar buys less now than it used to and I'm sure the HOA are seeing the same thing. I'm pretty happy with an 4 year average increase in maintenance fees of 1.4%

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jebloomquist · Nov 29, 2015

2016 Angel Fire - Sun Lodge AFFL
Maintenance Fee $2.95
TOTAL $2.95

2016 Bali Hai Villas AFLE & AFLK & AFLO
Maintenance Fee $3.26
Reserve Fund $0.61
TOTAL $3.87

2016 Bali Hai Villas F/W
Maintenance Fee $2.68
Reserve Fund $0.56
TOTAL $3.24

2016 Bali Hai Villas UDI & U-EV & U-OD
Maintenance Fee $2.96
Reserve Fund $0.39
TOTAL $3.35

2016 Branson U-OD
Maintenance Fee $4.43
Reserve Fund $1.31
Property Tax $0.10
TOTAL $5.84

2016 Canterbury at San Francisco UDI
Maintenance Fee $2.63
Reserve Fund $0.40
Property Tax $0.34
TOTAL $3.37

2016 Fairfield Harbour F/W
Maintenance Fee $4.54
Reserve Fund $0.05
Property Tax $0.09
TOTAL $4.68

2016 Grand Desert UDI
Maintenance Fee $3.57
Reserve Fund $0.74
Property Tax $0.12
TOTAL $4.43

2016 Pagosa F/DS
Maintenance Fee $4.59
Reserve Fund $0.82
Property Tax $0.09
TOTAL $5.51

2016 Pagosa UDI
Maintenance Fee $4.65
Reserve Fund $1.16
Property Tax $0.08
TOTAL $5.89

2016 Panama City Beach UDI
Maintenance Fee $3.28
Reserve Fund $0.51
Property Tax $0.17
TOTAL $3.96

2016 Patriots' Place F/DS
Maintenance Fee $3.44
Reserve Fund $1.43
Property Tax $0.19
TOTAL $5.06

2016 Royal Garden at Waikiki UDI
Maintenance Fee $3.58
Reserve Fund $0.53
Property Tax $0.56
TOTAL $4.67

2016 Sedona UDI
Maintenance Fee $3.80
Reserve Fund $0.85
Property Tax $0.15
TOTAL $4.80

2016 Smoky Mountains UDI
Maintenance Fee $3.68
Reserve Fund $1.05
Property Tax $0.11
TOTAL $4.84

pagosajim · Nov 29, 2015

scootr5 said:
Only a 5.1% increase. I honestly thought it would be a little more with all of the ovation properties taken in.

Let's not forget the low $/point all CWA properties that entered the system this year (Beaver Creek, Park City). They have surely had an overall impact on the CWA fees.

pedro47 · Nov 29, 2015

I would like to thanks everyone for sharing this information.

spackler · Nov 29, 2015

markb53 said:
It is true that in the last 5 years my salary hasn't increased by much. But just about everything I spend money on has gone up. From my health, auto, and home owners insurance. To what it costs to heat my house. To the groceries I buy. The reason the inflation rate is flat is because the labor cost is flat or down, and it balances out the increases in other costs.

*Your* individual situation is irrelevant when it comes to measuring aggregate inflation. When you take into account all the things consumers buy (groceries, transportation, housing, clothing, etc) the CPI rate hasn't been over 2% since '12.

The bottom line is that Wyndham maintenance fee increases always seem to outstrip inflation.

Vacationfuntips · Nov 29, 2015

I don't know if anyone has noticed that for Wyndham Bonnet Creek Resort that the actual maintenance fees are lower than 2015. The property taxes went UP as well as the Reserves resulting in higher fees for timeshare points owners of this property. 2015 maintenance fees were $3.98 and are reduced to $3.67 for 2016. However, the overall cost has gone up due to property taxes being high and the reserve increase.

Cynthia T.

CruiseGuy · Nov 29, 2015

2016 RESORT NAME: Panama City Beach
Maintenance Fees $3.28
Reserve Fund $0.51
Property Tax $0.27
TOTAL $3.96
(2015 Total $3.82 – 3.7% increase)

2016 RESORT NAME: Bonnet Creek
Maintenance Fees $3.67
Reserve Fund $0.86
Property Tax $0.84
TOTAL $5.37
(2015 Total $4.98 – 7.8% increase)

2016 RESORT NAME: Royal Vista
Maintenance Fees $4.37
Reserve Fund $1.20
Property Tax $0.42
TOTAL $5.99
(2015 Total $5.87 – 2.0% increase)

*These amounts do not include program fees.

spackler · Nov 29, 2015

2016 RESORT NAME: Kingsgate (Prime Season F/W Converted to 238,000 Points)
Maintenance Fees $2.74
Reserve Fund $0.89
Property Tax $0.15
TOTAL $3.79
(2015 Total $3.66 – 3.6% increase)

2016 RESORT NAME: Kingsgate (High Season F/W Converted to 203,000 Points)
Maintenance Fees $3.22
Reserve Fund $01.05
Property Tax $0.18
TOTAL $4.44
(2015 Total $4.29 – 3.5% increase)

Please note all the 3-bedroom lockout converted weeks at Kingsgate have the same exact maintenance fees in dollar terms ($901.64), but the ratios will be different depending on the converted point value.

rubbub · Nov 29, 2015

Wyndham Bali Hai
Maintenance Fee $3.09
Reserve Fund: $0.80
Total: $3.89 (2.06% increase)

Noticed there was a 0.15 local tax last year but not this year. The maintenance fee went up over 6% and the reserve fund went up 5%.

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