rudy
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- Joined
- Dec 3, 2007
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- Location
- ohio
- Resorts Owned
- Marriott: Barony, Ocean Point, KoOlina, Surfwatch
I only own Marriott's and am familiar with their rules of usage and II trading. However, I am intrigued by the flexibility that the Hilton points based system offers. Are there any owners of both MVCI and HGVC that can help me understand the plusses and minuss of the Hilton vs Marriott timeshare usage, trading , and re-sale.
What I think I understand (and like) about Hilton that has my interest:
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1. Hilton maintains home resort inventory in that you do not reserve your home resort week if you want to travel to another Hilton or other season in your home resort. (Therefore platinum owners will use the prime platinum weeks.. unlike Marriott where owners book prime weeks for II trading power.)
2. Hilton provides flexibility to reserve a villa for as few as 3 days.
3. Optional night stays within a 'flextime' can be purchased dirt cheap.
4. Hilton allows an owner to reserve at any other HGVC resort within a 9 month window.
What I do not understand about Hilton:
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1. If you own a 2 bedroom platinum unit at a resort with studio,1, 2, and 3 bedroom villas, can you reserve at 12 months your home resort for 2 consecutive weeks in a 1 bedroom followed by a studio during platinum season(assuming you have enough points)? This would be analogous to using a lock-off feature in the Marriot tsystem.. or do you have to wait to within 9 months to reserve anything but your 2 bedroom during platinum season?
2. In Marriott it is best to own where you travel most... However in Hilton it is not clear...For example, let's pick Hawaii as your travel destination. If Hiltons are readily available 9 months ahead, then why pay the large maintenance fees and purchase price of Hawaii when you buy Orlando or Vegas at 50-70% price per point?
3. Is there really availabilty at Hiltons 9 months out even during prime season at prime resorts (Hawaii in summer, skiing resorts during Pres week,etc)?
4. Are Hilton re-sales similar to Mariott in that you cannot exchange your HGVC club points for Hilton Honors points? What else do you miss-out on if you purchase Hilton re-sale vs buying from the developer?
5. What is the deal with the 'affilliate' resorts? Is there a difference in the manner you use, trade, or reserve your unit if you own an original HGVC resort vesus an affiliate? Do affilliates gcome and go adn Hiltons discretion or are there agreements for Hilton to manange for a 30 yr or whatever time period?
6. I understand you can borrow points from the following year if you need a few to get what you wnatthis year...but can you bank points for future trips? In other words Marriot's you either use it, etrade for MR points, or deposit it to II for a 3 yr use period (12 months prior and 24 months after your oreserved date)...what are the options for Hilton?
7. I believe Hilton utilizes ROFR ..is their a Hilton database analogous to the Marriott ROFR database?
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Sorry for the long post...just looking for answers from fellow Marriott owners who speak a language I understand.....
What I think I understand (and like) about Hilton that has my interest:
*********************************************
1. Hilton maintains home resort inventory in that you do not reserve your home resort week if you want to travel to another Hilton or other season in your home resort. (Therefore platinum owners will use the prime platinum weeks.. unlike Marriott where owners book prime weeks for II trading power.)
2. Hilton provides flexibility to reserve a villa for as few as 3 days.
3. Optional night stays within a 'flextime' can be purchased dirt cheap.
4. Hilton allows an owner to reserve at any other HGVC resort within a 9 month window.
What I do not understand about Hilton:
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1. If you own a 2 bedroom platinum unit at a resort with studio,1, 2, and 3 bedroom villas, can you reserve at 12 months your home resort for 2 consecutive weeks in a 1 bedroom followed by a studio during platinum season(assuming you have enough points)? This would be analogous to using a lock-off feature in the Marriot tsystem.. or do you have to wait to within 9 months to reserve anything but your 2 bedroom during platinum season?
2. In Marriott it is best to own where you travel most... However in Hilton it is not clear...For example, let's pick Hawaii as your travel destination. If Hiltons are readily available 9 months ahead, then why pay the large maintenance fees and purchase price of Hawaii when you buy Orlando or Vegas at 50-70% price per point?
3. Is there really availabilty at Hiltons 9 months out even during prime season at prime resorts (Hawaii in summer, skiing resorts during Pres week,etc)?
4. Are Hilton re-sales similar to Mariott in that you cannot exchange your HGVC club points for Hilton Honors points? What else do you miss-out on if you purchase Hilton re-sale vs buying from the developer?
5. What is the deal with the 'affilliate' resorts? Is there a difference in the manner you use, trade, or reserve your unit if you own an original HGVC resort vesus an affiliate? Do affilliates gcome and go adn Hiltons discretion or are there agreements for Hilton to manange for a 30 yr or whatever time period?
6. I understand you can borrow points from the following year if you need a few to get what you wnatthis year...but can you bank points for future trips? In other words Marriot's you either use it, etrade for MR points, or deposit it to II for a 3 yr use period (12 months prior and 24 months after your oreserved date)...what are the options for Hilton?
7. I believe Hilton utilizes ROFR ..is their a Hilton database analogous to the Marriott ROFR database?
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Sorry for the long post...just looking for answers from fellow Marriott owners who speak a language I understand.....