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Does anyone know, if when you purchase a Starwood resale, if they upgrade your Starwood Preferred Guest Level from PREFERRED to GOLD on the hotel side?
 

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No, they do not. Only developer purchases is my understanding.

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No, they do not. Only developer purchases is my understanding.

SUPPOSEDLY, SPG Gold as well as the conversion-to-Starpoints feature are benefits of SVN membership, which conveys only with mandatory resorts. It would seem that if these are benefits of SVN, and resale buyers of mandatory resorts are members of SVN and pay the same SVN membership fees, then these benefits should also convey. However, Starwood has made up their own rules and what sjsharkie has stated above is correct. That said, if someone cared enough about these benefits to pursue action against Starwood, I think there's a reasonable chance they would be forced to provide these benefits to resale buyers as well.
 

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SUPPOSEDLY, SPG Gold as well as the conversion-to-Starpoints feature are benefits of SVN membership, which conveys only with mandatory resorts. It would seem that if these are benefits of SVN, and resale buyers of mandatory resorts are members of SVN and pay the same SVN membership fees, then these benefits should also convey. However, Starwood has made up their own rules and what sjsharkie has stated above is correct. That said, if someone cared enough about these benefits to pursue action against Starwood, I think there's a reasonable chance they would be forced to provide these benefits to resale buyers as well.

there's probably a clause in the club (SVN) agreement saying some of the features only apply to the first owner (developer purchase), and not subsequent owners (resale)

similar situation -- at least here, this is pretty common on condos where the ability to rent is unrestricted for the first owner, and restricted/gone for any later owners.
 

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there's probably a clause in the club (SVN) agreement saying some of the features only apply to the first owner (developer purchase), and not subsequent owners (resale)

similar situation -- at least here, this is pretty common on condos where the ability to rent is unrestricted for the first owner, and restricted/gone for any later owners.

You're probably right. At the very least I think they should stop marketing it as a benefit of SVN.
 

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I would not give "SPG Gold Status" a 2nd thought - so many people have it through TS ownership, and AMEX Credit Card use, that the value has been very diluted. It should not be a factor in your decision making process.
 
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My husband and I recently purchased a Westin Kierland Villas ownership via resale. Our SPG membership did get bumped up to Gold.

I believe that mandatory resorts are eligible for Gold status; this may be due in part of the SVN network fee that is lumped w/the yearly HOA payment.
 

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My husband and I recently purchased a Westin Kierland Villas ownership via resale. Our SPG membership did get bumped up to Gold.
Are you certain that your Gold status is because of your membership in SVN or is it possible you have the Starwood AMEX or reached some other qualification milestone? The reason I ask is, your experience would be contrary to just about everyone else's.
 
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I do believe that my Gold status is because of the yearly SVN membership fee that I pay w/my maintenance fees.

The Gold status upgrade occurred shortly after our resale purchase, at WKV, finalized and transferred to my husband and me.

I did not have a Starwood AMEX at that time, so it is unrelated.

I think we received a letter from SVN, upon transfer, that welcomed us to SVN and talked about the benefits such as the gold status upgrade. If I find the letter I'll confirm.

To be honest, the subject matter is so wishy washy.

Here's a link to the same discussion from 2010:
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120744
 

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I do believe that my Gold status is because of the yearly SVN membership fee that I pay w/my maintenance fees.

The Gold status upgrade occurred shortly after our resale purchase, at WKV, finalized and transferred to my husband and me.

I did not have a Starwood AMEX at that time, so it is unrelated.

I think we received a letter from SVN, upon transfer, that welcomed us to SVN and talked about the benefits such as the gold status upgrade. If I find the letter I'll confirm.

To be honest, the subject matter is so wishy washy.

Here's a link to the same discussion from 2010:
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120744

How does SVN know your starwood#? I searched Mystarcentral, but could find a place to add starwood#. We bought resale at harborside, and would like to get starwood gold status. I know it's not a big deal, but at least internet is free for gold, isn't it?
 

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I do think this is a Mandatory thing - we bought WKORV resale and received SPG Gold status. Now, if they would only give us SPG stay credits for our SVO VOIs...

Note: the SPG status is in your SPG account - not SVN account.
 

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Note: the SPG status is in your SPG account - not SVN account.

I know that, but how can you link spg and svn account? I mean, How does spg know I am a SVN owner? I can't find a place to enter my SVN# in spg account either. Can anyone throw some light on me?
 

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I know that, but how can you link spg and svn account? I mean, How does spg know I am a SVN owner? I can't find a place to enter my SVN# in spg account either. Can anyone throw some light on me?

I called SPG.
 

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I know that, but how can you link spg and svn account? I mean, How does spg know I am a SVN owner? I can't find a place to enter my SVN# in spg account either. Can anyone throw some light on me?

There is an extra form in the SVN paperwork that you provide your SPG number on. Then they take care of linking the two together (SPG refers to it as "external marketing" I believe)
 

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I know that, but how can you link spg and svn account? I mean, How does spg know I am a SVN owner? I can't find a place to enter my SVN# in spg account either. Can anyone throw some light on me?


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SPG Gold Status

I receive d gold status by simply sending an email from mystarcentral on my resale Haborside account. They emailed me back and said that they would be happy to link my SPG number to my SVO account, they just needed my SPG #. Emailed them back with the # and it was done within 2-3 days. Received a confirmation email from SPG congratulating me on my Gold status!
 

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I recently purchase resale svv - key west and after reading this post. i send an email in message center at StarCentral yesterday and got an email this morning saying they have link my SPG number to my svn account. I also received an email from SPG welcoming as SPG Gold.

Thanks to this post i got my SPG Gold. Quite simple.:whoopie:

Vincent.
 
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I tried the same thing by sending them an email. Here's what I got.

Please be aware, weeks purchased through resale at a mandatory resort, or within a mandatory phase of the resort, are eligible for internal exchange using the StarOptions value of the ownership week; however, the week is not eligible for conversion to StarPoints, nor is your SPG account eligible for upgrade to Gold level.
 

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I tried the same thing by sending them an email. Here's what I got.

Please be aware, weeks purchased through resale at a mandatory resort, or within a mandatory phase of the resort, are eligible for internal exchange using the StarOptions value of the ownership week; however, the week is not eligible for conversion to StarPoints, nor is your SPG account eligible for upgrade to Gold level.

Hello Julian,

May i suggest just asking them to link your SPG account to your mandatory week unit?

In my email i never suggested nor ask for upgrade to SPG gold. SPG gold status isn't given at SVN Owner site, it is given from SPG. Once it is link you will more than likely get the SGP Gold, that is just my thinking.

Vincent.
 
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Vincent, thanks for the suggestion. I'll try that approach. :)
 
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