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I want to cancel a reservation and then attempt to rebook, how long does it normally take for the free days to show up in the system?
 

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a few seconds to 1-2 minutes, at least that has been my experience, provided someone else does not get them first. Which has happened to me.

Many other people here have also tried and failed to pick up a unit at the cheaper point level. Just remember you may lose the unit you have.

Fair Warning.
 

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Used to be a pretty predictable 20 seconds between the time you confirm the cancellation until the cancelled unit showed up in a search.

It's more than that now -- I expect it to show up in the 40-45 second range.

I have always maintained that the probability of someone else getting my cancelled reservation before I do is extremely low. Nor do I think Wyndham's Extra Holidays takes them. I've never seen a lost reservation show up on EH.

I think overbooking (in some form or another) accounts for losing units at rebooking.

Add: Moments ago, I rebooked two reservations starting August 2nd at Ocean Walk. I had a 1BR Deluxe (140K points) and a 2BR lock off (245K points). I cancelled them both, rebooked the 1BR unit at 70K points and took an immediate upgrade to the 2BR LO, then rebooked and confirmed the 1BR unit for 70K points. Start to finish was 1 minute, 15 seconds. Savings = 245K points.
 
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I didn't have to chance a cancel/re-book someone else must have cancelled a reservation because I just snagged a re-book and an upgrade. Now I can release mine for someone else to grab. Thanks for the information.
 

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I didn't have to chance a cancel/re-book someone else must have cancelled a reservation because I just snagged a re-book and an upgrade. Now I can release mine for someone else to grab. Thanks for the information.

That's the Blind Squirrel Phenomenon!!
 

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If you have enough points I would double so that, should you lose the canceled reservation due to someone else reserving it, you then have a backup. My recommendation would be to call Wyndham reservation line and have them do the cancel, rebook for you. Be aware that there are vacation brokers, many of whom who have clients who are Wyndham owners and have access to owner points so your competition is not just other Wyndham owners trying to book into the resort you want to cancel and rebook.
 

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cancel and rebook

A word of warning. If you are attempting to do this with a 3 or 4 bedroom unit at Glacier Canyon be aware that your reservation will not come back, even if you have a reservations person do it. The reservations people have no idea why this is happening just that the resort is pulling these reservations for larger units out of inventory so they do not come back. I called the resort to ask if they were updating the units this summer and was told they are not. So it looks like either the resort is keeping a waiting list for people who own at the resort or they are selling the stays themselves. Both of which they are not supposed to do but they have gotten away with doing things they aren't allowed to do in the past.
 

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Good for you! You were one of the lucky ones!

It is always better to get the new reservation first before releasing yours if you can. So you don't lose anything.

Less points spent and free upgrades are always a good thing!!!

Cynthia T. :)
 

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A word of warning. If you are attempting to do this with a 3 or 4 bedroom unit at Glacier Canyon be aware that your reservation will not come back, even if you have a reservations person do it. The reservations people have no idea why this is happening just that the resort is pulling these reservations for larger units out of inventory so they do not come back. I called the resort to ask if they were updating the units this summer and was told they are not. So it looks like either the resort is keeping a waiting list for people who own at the resort or they are selling the stays themselves. Both of which they are not supposed to do but they have gotten away with doing things they aren't allowed to do in the past.

I don't think this is true I think it's other owners that "live" on the website watching and waiting for cancellations
 

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I don't think this is true I think it's other owners that "live" on the website watching and waiting for cancellations

Agree with Ron. The resort has nothing to do with what happens to those units.

Premium units at high-demand properties that are cancelled and re-booked inside the 60-day VIP window are going to get snapped up by mega-renters for upgrade. Glacier, Bonnet Creek, San Francisco, any of the Myrtle Beach summer / spring-break / bike-week dates, and SoFlo snow-bird locations [to name only a few] are in that consideration group.

If you don't want to loose your unit that is in a high-demand property / season, do not attempt to cancel and re-book. It's likely it will disappear.
 

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I've had the cancel/rebook thing fail for me 3 times. 2 were for off season in the Caribbean (early Nov). I very much doubt someone just happened to be looking for those days the 2 different times I tried it. I had a back up plan (Worldmark), so was able to get the days back, but not with Wyndham. I've been told by Wyndham that places sometime over book and when a cancellation comes through, the "resort" takes the unit. Doesn't sound fair, but certainly seems possible.
 

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Caveat: I don't own Wyndham.

Observation: Sounds risky without a backup reservation.

George
 

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Breaks my heart, every time I hear of someone losing a reservation trying the cancel and rebook at the elite levels offering a discount for last minute reservations.

The sadder part is that it is pitched as a feature of buying developer points to attain status, that is rarely available for resale (with some complicated exceptions) by Wyndham sales liars
 

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Without a doubt, the cancel and rebook is a gamble. If the unit is RENTED and PAID for, I would be a total FOOL to try to skim some points back. And I would be a BIGGER fool to rent the unit below my cost, expecting to use the rebook with discount window.

If the unit is NOT RENTED, I might try to rebook it ... And my track record is, I have lost some reservations. Lost enough to know it is a total crap shoot & gamble.

When I first started in this timeshare, there were very few people who tried to cancel & rebook ... why? Because the cancelled reservations all showed up the NEXT AM ... not 20 seconds or 90 seconds later. No screen refresh - but after the inventory system reload from the overnight run. And the units rented for FULL point values. No expected discounts.
 

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I've had the cancel/rebook thing fail for me 3 times. 2 were for off season in the Caribbean (early Nov). I very much doubt someone just happened to be looking for those days the 2 different times I tried it. I had a back up plan (Worldmark), so was able to get the days back, but not with Wyndham. I've been told by Wyndham that places sometime over book and when a cancellation comes through, the "resort" takes the unit. Doesn't sound fair, but certainly seems possible.

If it is an overbook situation, the resort isn't really taking anything, but rather the unit never makes it back into inventory because there was "negative" inventory at the point just prior to cancellation. I'm not sure where the unfairness comes in; it sounds more like a misnomer on the Wyndham booking agent's choice of words.


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Breaks my heart, every time I hear of someone losing a reservation trying the cancel and rebook at the elite levels offering a discount for last minute reservations.

The sadder part is that it is pitched as a feature of buying developer points to attain status, that is rarely available for resale (with some complicated exceptions) by Wyndham sales liars.

David

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” -George Carlin

I guess George Carlin states pretty well why I should never try to argue you out of your cynical attitudes about Wyndham.

Jim
 

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If it is an overbook situation, the resort isn't really taking anything, but rather the unit never makes it back into inventory because there was "negative" inventory at the point just prior to cancellation. I'm not sure where the unfairness comes in; it sounds more like a misnomer on the Wyndham booking agent's choice of words.
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I see your point, but I also thought Wyndham inventory was kept separate from other inventory. The resorts that I lost the reservations for were either one of their hotel resorts (Peachtree) or a resort with lots of other companies owning there (Elysian in St. Thomas). If, say, Worldmark took a Wyndham unit, then that's not fair. In this case, Worldmark was my back up, so I just paid cash and got it on bonus time really cheap. The Peachtree resort I had no back up plan for, but I didn't really need it so that was no big deal.
 
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