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I have gone through the Wyndham Club Pass book to see points needed to book stuff. However, I am not sure I am looking in the right place in order to determine how many points would best suit my needs. Is this the correct area to determine points when purchasing a resale? Thanks in advance.
 

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I have gone through the Wyndham Club Pass book to see points needed to book stuff. However, I am not sure I am looking in the right place in order to determine how many points would best suit my needs. Is this the correct area to determine points when purchasing a resale? Thanks in advance.

Club Pass is an exchange program between Club Wyndham and Worldmark the Club. If you are looking at the Club Pass book you are looking at the points a Club Wyndham owner needs to stay at a Worldmark resort (and not a resale buyer, Club Pass is a developer program not open to us resale buyers.

If you are considering a Club Wyndham purchase this is where to look

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/wyndham/plus_membersdirectory1415/
 

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http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/wyndham/plus_membersdirectory1415/#/46

this is the page for Wyndham Oceanside Pier, Oceanside, CA
click on the points chart, with the heading Unit Type.

Notice it has 2 seasons, Prime, and High. The weeks of the year that make up High are 49 - 52 and 1 - 4. The rest of the year is Prime.

Fri & Sat nights have a certain point value (each)
Sun - Thu nights have a lower point value (each)
Add all 7 nights together to get the full week cost.

To get a 2br deluxe, that doesn't see the water, it's 238,000 points most of the year, and 203,000 points during the eight weeks of "High" season.

2br deluxe ocean view: 275,000 & 238,000
2br deluxe ocean front: 324,000 & 276,000
 
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Club Pass is an exchange program between Club Wyndham and Worldmark the Club. If you are looking at the Club Pass book you are looking at the points a Club Wyndham owner needs to stay at a Worldmark resort (and not a resale buyer, Club Pass is a developer program not open to us resale buyers.

If you are considering a Club Wyndham purchase this is where to look

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/wyndham/plus_membersdirectory1415/

Thank you for the explanation.
 

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I wish that Wyndham didn't charge you to get a Pass resort catalog.
 

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How can you tell if you are buying just points or a UDI interest with points? Is there a difference? Is there a way to indicate which week it is, if the listing just says points with something such as red week/high? Or are there no weeks fixed at that point because it is just points?
 

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Wyndham has a multiple varieties of POINTS ... UDI, CWP, Converted fixed weeks, floating converted fixed weeks, regional ARP points, dually deeded ARP points.

But unless you buy your points directly from Wyndham, YOU will not get Club Wyndham PASS access.

As for listings ANYWHERE you look ... 75% or them are just totally wrong and the other 25% are just a bit wrong. But maybe, 45% are somewhat correct ....

Do the math ... most people do not know WHAT they own and/or, they can not explain correctly.

Ron is a specialist in some resorts; I know my few resorts very, very well; Both of us know a lot about Wyndham points in general and using the points systems ....

After a point in talking and reading on these TUG boards ... you just have to JUMP in to see if you have MASTER all these verbal swimming lessons. Just don't jump into 15 timeshares or 2 million Wyndham points ... get your feet wet VERY SLOWLY and in the shallow end of the pool.
 
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Wyndham has a multiple varieties of POINTS ... UDI, CWP, Converted fixed weeks, floating converted fixed weeks, regional ARP points, dually deeded ARP points.

But unless you buy your points directly from Wyndham, YOU will not get Club Wyndham PASS access.

As for listings ANYWHERE you look ... 75% or them are just totally wrong and the other 25% are just a bit wrong. But maybe, 45% are somewhat correct ....

Do the math ... most people do not know WHAT they own and/or, they can not explain correctly.

Ron is a specialist in some resorts; I know my few resorts very, very well; Both of us know a lot about Wyndham points in general and using the points systems ....

After a point in talking and reading on these TUG boards ... you just have to JUMP in to see if you have MASTER all these verbal swimming lessons. Just don't jump into 15 timeshares or 2 million Wyndham points ... get your feet wet VERY SLOWLY and in the shallow end of the pool.

I feel like I will never be able to learn another system if I keep trying to learn this one lol Does it matter what kind of points you buy considering no one even knows what they own anyway?
 

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Please ... I own Wyndham points, RCI points, Shell points and DVC points plus my various resorts where I have fixed deeded weeks with all their rules.

AND you better KNOW which points system WILL work for your family? Ask people who brought the WRONG system due to location of resorts, deeded at the wrong resort, in the wrong club of the system, hate their home resort in the system ... and some owners just HATE their system (like Waste-gate) or is it the corporate owner?

And I work fulltime and manage an almost 90yo.

Know YOUR family is your first step ... and then, remember, kids should leave home ... don't get ONLY places they would want as a KID. Think FAMILY now and later, just you parents and even LATER, LATER on, your kids & their (or your) adult friends plus eventually, those special new little people.
 

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I feel like I will never be able to learn another system if I keep trying to learn this one lol Does it matter what kind of points you buy considering no one even knows what they own anyway?

There are only 2 reasons to buy (or not buy) at one resort or another and those two reasons are 1) ARP and 2) the maintenance fees.

I want ARP in New Orleans so I am always on the lookout for La Belle Maison and CWA

I also like low maintenance fees, so I look for Bali Hai, Panama City Beach, National Harbor and Canterbury, but I wont pay more than a penny a point because Im a cheap sob, so I dont get many of these.

after that Ill buy anything, for the right price, , and now thats about a penny a point
 
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There are only 2 reasons to buy (or not buy) at one resort or another and those two reasons are 1) ARP and 2) the maintenance fees.

I want ARP in New Orleans so I am always on the lookout for La Belle Maison and CWA

I also like low maintenance fees, so I look for Bali Hai, Panama City Beach, National Harbor and Canterbury, but I wont pay more than a penny a point because Im a cheap sob, so I dont get many of these.

after that Ill buy anything, for the right price, , and now thats about a penny a point

Love this response!! Ok, so if I wanted to buy cheap for the purposes of MF - it would not make a difference about specific location that I "own" at because I can just book my points elsewhere? I would want ARP for Mardi Gras too :banana::banana::banana::banana:
 

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I feel like I will never be able to learn another system if I keep trying to learn this one lol Does it matter what kind of points you buy considering no one even knows what they own anyway?

O and you dont need to really know the system to use it any more than I need to know how a computer works to use it.

Wyndham is simple. Points are symbolic of ownership, and You use points to make reservations at very nice resorts. Points will cost you to buy them and you have to pay to maintain the resorts. Thats all I knew when I bought in, That and the fact that Wyndham has the only two timeshares in The Washington DC area

slightly more advanced knowledge is helpful to avoid surprises; Like transaction fees and housekeeping fees and guest fees (this info is less than a page in the owners directory) and at this point all you need to now is that there are junk fees and there are ways to minimize them.

then the advanced stuff (which at this point you only need to know exists) like how to borrow points, deposit points to RCI and how to use the points credit pool (another page in the book) will teach you how to maximize what you have.

Basically you learn as you go.. Just like Chess, you can learn the rules well enough to play in an afternoon but it takes a lifetime to become a master.

Or maybe like a computer. I have no idea how this thing works, but here I am sitting in my lazy-boy communicating with the world
 
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Please ... I own Wyndham points, RCI points, Shell points and DVC points plus my various resorts where I have fixed deeded weeks with all their rules.

AND you better KNOW which points system WILL work for your family? Ask people who brought the WRONG system due to location of resorts, deeded at the wrong resort, in the wrong club of the system, hate their home resort in the system ... and some owners just HATE their system (like Waste-gate) or is it the corporate owner?

And I work fulltime and manage an almost 90yo.

Know YOUR family is your first step ... and then, remember, kids should leave home ... don't get ONLY places they would want as a KID. Think FAMILY now and later, just you parents and even LATER, LATER on, your kids & their (or your) adult friends plus eventually, those special new little people.

I think this is excellent advice. There are so many timeshares for sale because a lot of people never understood what they were buying or what kind of usage they could get out of it.
 

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O and you dont need to really know the system to use it any more than I need to know how a computer works to use it.

Wyndham is simple. Points are symbolic of ownership, and You use points to make reservations at very nice resorts. Points will cost you to buy them and you have to pay to maintain the resorts. Thats all I knew when I bought in, That and the fact that Wyndham has the only two timeshares in The Washington DC area

slightly more advanced knowledge is helpful to avoid surprises; Like transaction fees and housekeeping fees and guest fees (this info is less than a page in the owners directory) and at this point all you need to now is that there are junk fees and there are ways to minimize them.

then the advanced stuff (which at this point you only need to know exists) like how to borrow points, deposit points to RCI and how to use the points credit pool (another page in the book) will teach you how to maximize what you have.

Basically you learn as you go.. Just like Chess, you can learn the rules well enough to play in an afternoon but it takes a lifetime to become a master.

Or maybe like a computer. I have know idea how this thing works, but here I am sitting in my lazy-boy communicating with the world[/QUOTE

Ron is the expert points man here. He rents as a business so he knows the ins and outs. The only thing I would add is back to what vacationhopeful said and that is I think you should somewhat understand what you are buying. Make sure you buy enough points to get you exchanges into resorts and units that you want. For example, if you are going to want a 2 bedroom Deluxe unit at Smuggs somewhat often make sure you buy at least enough points for that. This way you start off with something you can be happy with. Make sure you understand the basic reservations system-that you need to reserve 13 months out in many cases for prime season and in demand resorts/units- especially in the Northeast- there is a lot of demand for ski time and summer is especially short and books up quickly. Things like that. The rest of the learning will come with time. I will say- yes- you can buy at any resort and use your points elsewhere- that is what a lot of people do- but often times these people are disappointed because they do not get the exchanges they had hoped for- again- not understanding the system or using it correctly, etc.

For example- I wanted a specific area (West Hill- where I also own)and deluxe size unit at Smuggs for this XMAS for our family and my brothers'. Because I was renting from a Wyndham owner I knew I had to make sure she would book 13 months out so I placed a wish ad early. She is not a Smuggs owner and was not familiar with the resort, but has a ton of points and rents them out. She got on the phone at the exact time the Wyndham office opened (as opposed to booking online which she would have had to wait another 2 hours I believe) and when she called there were only 2 deluxe units available- almost exactly what we needed- in one building in West Hill. I really wanted (2) 2 bedroom units but there was only a 2 bedroom and a 1 bedroom, which we took. Matter of fact, there were no deluxe units available in my second and third choices- Tamaracks, Aspens....A lot of owners did not convert to Wyndham, so that is one reason, although supposedly (according to mgmt. -ha, ha) more have recently converted. Most of the inventory is still in weeks and RCI points.

This is the kind of stuff you have to contend with when you buy points so just something to be conscious of.
 
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Ron and I both know about "blended" resorts ... Smuggs is going to be a BIG blended resort.

Whiled blended means, not all units are Wyndham points reserve-able, each has QUIRKY rules from the very first day it open thru 20-35 years of operational changes ... Event Weeks, Deeded PRIME weeks, float Event weeks, RCI points, Wyndham points (CWA or CWP or converted fixed weeks) ... etc & etc. And villages/HOAs within a resort. Then throw in Wyndham's rules for points ... hah, hah, hah ...

By the time you figure out 99% of the nuiances, your kids with be giving you grandkids .... so, figure out JUST ONE version for 1 WEEK of family vacation and keep the $$ low (to a degree - not penny foolish but not developer prices) ,,, and JUMP into the pool. Summer is getting near. :ignore:

PS I have already booked MOST (like almost all my) 2016 points reservations ... And I bet Ron has also!
 

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Love this response!! Ok, so if I wanted to buy cheap for the purposes of MF - it would not make a difference about specific location that I "own" at because I can just book my points elsewhere? I would want ARP for Mardi Gras too :banana::banana::banana::banana:

oh no,,if you want low mf by one of the ones I mentioned. Just be careful not to pay too much, There will be heavy bidding for the low mf contracts, sometimes they go high enough that you would do better buying something with a little higher mf for less.
 
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