[ 2015 ] Westin Nanea on sale now

tacopizzabob said:

Did you receive the files? I sent you two of them yesterday. Thanks, bob

They could maybe go here AND the new sticky Nanea thread?

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The sticky is for pictures only, please.

DeniseM said:

The sticky is for pictures only, please.

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OK, the only reason i suggested though was the brochure has "pictures" of the layouts as well as marketing pictures... so didn't know if that counted as pictures. They're aren't construction photos though, which is what's in that other thread obviously.

tacopizzabob said:

OK, the only reason i suggested though was the brochure has "pictures" of the layouts as well as marketing pictures... so didn't know if that counted as pictures. They're aren't construction photos though, which is what's in that other thread obviously.

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Brochure pictures would be great - thank you! I thought you were posting something like price lists, or other text that would generate discussion.

*However, please don't post the same pictures in both places, TUG has a rule against duplicate posts.

tacopizzabob said:

Did you receive the files? I sent you two of them yesterday. Thanks, bob

They could maybe go here AND the new sticky Nanea thread?

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I did but work and kids have meant I have not tackled this yesterday.

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DeniseM said:

The sticky is for pictures only, please.

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No floor plan pdf?

I guess I should make the floorplans into pictures to comply.

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DeniseM said:

Brochure pictures would be great - thank you! I thought you were posting something like price lists, or other text that would generate discussion.

*However, please don't post the same pictures in both places, TUG has a rule against duplicate posts.

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Ah got it. Read the whole thread first!

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DeniseM said:

Brochure pictures would be great - thank you! I thought you were posting something like price lists, or other text that would generate discussion.

*However, please don't post the same pictures in both places, TUG has a rule against duplicate posts.

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tacopizzabob said:

Did you receive the files? I sent you two of them yesterday. Thanks, bob

They could maybe go here AND the new sticky Nanea thread?

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Posted to the sticky.

Denise you can clean up our conversation in there now and delete those two posts.

I put placeholders in initially to plan the brochure load and make sure others did not post into the sequence. There was method to the apparent madness.

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SMHarman said:

Posted to the sticky.

Denise you can clean up our conversation in there now and delete those two posts.

I put placeholders in initially to plan the brochure load and make sure others did not post into the sequence. There was method to the apparent madness.

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Good planning! Thank you so much for posting those!

Fascinating photos you posted, SMHarman. Thank you and tacopizzabob for all the good info!

My first thoughts are that the kitchen and master bedroom layouts look almost exactly like Phase 1 of HGVC's Kingsland on the Big Island. The big soaking tub in the middle of the open MBath takes up way too much space, and the living area is nice, but small. Our family thought the Kingsland 2BR units were tight for two couples and two children. And the Nanea LR/DR/kitchen seems especially small for a 3BR! Too bad they don't have large lanais to expand outdoor living space like the Ka'anapali Hyatt timeshares have. The view from all the units is better at the Hyatt, too, I'm afraid. The Nanea footprint means a lot of rooms are going to have limited/obstructed views.

SMHarman said:

I did but work and kids have meant I have not tackled this yesterday.

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Thanks, and GREAT job adding them all as separate posts. FYI - there was no image on the back of the booklet. It was blank with the exception of a few lines of copyright text. No biggie, but just wanted you to know that you weren't some amazing piece of artwork that would have made it some incredible special deal

Looking at the kitchen in the renderings, it is apparent that they have been designed by a non-cook. Now I see why they call them kitchenettes. There is no counter space to speak of. Maybe this is to appease the Maui Mayor's dislike of time shares. If the kitchens are too small, folks will have to eat out often.

I think the kitchen would be better if they changed the full wall storage cabinet next to the refrigerator into a lower cabinet with counter top, and wall cabinet above. At least then there would be some place to do your prep work.

The renderings seem to imply that the kitchen table will be counter height, so it looks sort of like a kitchen island on the drawings and floor plans. But of course if you use it as such, you will need to clean it up before you can sit down to eat. And how many kids do well at counter height tables and tall chairs?

The same sized living room for all three unit sizes? I think it will be awfully small for a three bedroom unit. It only has easy chairs/couch seating for 4. Where do the other 2-6 occupants sit?

And to call the building 4 hammer-head Ocean Front, when its view is restricted by buildings 1 and 8, is even more of a stretch than the OF designation for building 5 & 8 at WKORN. At least at WKORN, you have a good idea of your OF will have. I would not be a happy camper if I paid for OF and was stuck in building 4.

Finally, the concierge said that they were told that Nanea would NOT be sharing pools with WKOR/N. Who knows what will actually be the case. Only time will tell.

All in all, it is not looking like a property or layout that I want to purchase. I'll stick with my two weeks as WKORN.

Greg

Notes from owner updates

Some notes from our owners update:

1. The hammer heads are configured as follows from left to right on each hammerhead.
Building 8 (6 floors): 3br / 2br / 3br
Building 4 (5 floors): 2br / 3br / 2br
Building 1 (6 floors): 3br /2br /3br
The corner bedrooms of the hammerheads do not wrap around

2. New money requirements:
Ocean front $75k Resort view $35K

3. Maintenance fees not like coral vista (fixed and variable components per contract) but rather a straight per option fee regardless of how many options purchased. MF per option higher for Ocean Front vs Resort view.

4. First occupancy Aug 2017

How many did you buy?

Bought em all, they are all gone. Sorry about that.

Well, just read the whole thing and don't see the information we got yesterday. Perhaps this goes in a different topic. We were told that the existing owners of ocean front WKORV-N would receive a bump in the number of star options for their units, to be consistent with the new location. I have a bit more info but not sure this is the right place to post.

This will happen without an increase in MF's.

wannagotoo said:

Well, just read the whole thing and don't see the information we got yesterday. Perhaps this goes in a different topic. We were told that the existing owners of ocean front WKORV-N would receive a bump in the number of star options for their units, to be consistent with the new location. I have a bit more info but not sure this is the right place to post.

This will happen without an increase in MF's.

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Yes - that's correct - it has been increased.

The increase doesn't happen unit 2017. For 2016 it is still the old values.

My understanding that ocean view can still be upgraded to ocean front IF AVAILABLE and there will be no additional options charge, right? And that applies only if it is at check in. Is there a thread on this? To me it seemed that it would be much harder to upgrade to an ocean front.

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My understanding that ocean view can still be upgraded to ocean front IF AVAILABLE and there will be no additional options charge, right? And that applies only if it is at check in. Is there a thread on this? To me it seemed that it would be much harder to upgrade to an ocean front.

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That would be my guess. However, I would not mind spending the extra SOs to know I am getting OF in advance. But that's just me.

Just bought Nanea and having remorse

Hi, first, this is my first vacation ownership purchase. I'm an avid SPG user,
Familiar with points, use Amex SPG, and get gold status free with Amex platinum.

So we came down to Westin Maui Hotel, got the pitch and bought yesterday. 2br OF $77,000 which equates 177,000 Star Options for 1 week. This is a deeded property and they gave us 3 star elite status because we hit 177,000 options. The maintenance fee is $3,200 per year. If we cashed in the Star Options for SPG points it's about 95,000. As for perks, they initially gave us 120,000 SPG points but I negotiated up to 160,000. Then they also give gold for life, I negotiated for a resort credit, and they include the ability to buy 90k points for $1900 4 times before December 1 2017.

Now, I'm having major remorse. I'm pretty good at racking up points because I travel for work and stay at SPG and can use my SPG Amex card. I'm having a hard time with paying $77k plus $3200 a year for a vacation I know I can score using my points or find a cheaper deal through my own capabilities.

Help me out folks. I'm on the verge of rescinding and not seeing the upside. I think I was enamored with all the SPG points but I don't want to have the maintenance fee hanging over my head. I read a ton of posts on here saying to buy on eBay second hand and think I am just silly for doing this.

There is no ocean front. It is 1BR and 2BR Resort View or 2BR and 3BR Ocean Front only.

Hot cheese said:

Hi, first, this is my first vacation ownership purchase. I'm an avid SPG user,
Familiar with points, use Amex SPG, and get gold status free with Amex platinum.

So we came down to Westin Maui Hotel, got the pitch and bought yesterday. 2br OF $77,000 which equates 177,000 Star Options for 1 week. This is a deeded property and they gave us 3 star elite status because we hit 177,000 options. The maintenance fee is $3,200 per year. If we cashed in the Star Options for SPG points it's about 95,000. As for perks, they initially gave us 120,000 SPG points but I negotiated up to 160,000. Then they also give gold for life, I negotiated for a resort credit, and they include the ability to buy 90k points for $1900 4 times before December 1 2017.

Now, I'm having major remorse. I'm pretty good at racking up points because I travel for work and stay at SPG and can use my SPG Amex card. I'm having a hard time with paying $77k plus $3200 a year for a vacation I know I can score using my points or find a cheaper deal through my own capabilities.

Help me out folks. I'm on the verge of rescinding and not seeing the upside. I think I was enamored with all the SPG points but I don't want to have the maintenance fee hanging over my head. I read a ton of posts on here saying to buy on eBay second hand and think I am just silly for doing this.

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Rescind now. Immediately. I'm pretty sure you can find 2 bedroom Westin Maui ocean view for $10-15k from resale.

Again Rescind now, you have only few days left.

Hot cheese said:

Hi, first, this is my first vacation ownership purchase. I'm an avid SPG user,
Familiar with points, use Amex SPG, and get gold status free with Amex platinum.

So we came down to Westin Maui Hotel, got the pitch and bought yesterday. 2br OF $77,000 which equates 177,000 Star Options for 1 week. This is a deeded property and they gave us 3 star elite status because we hit 177,000 options. The maintenance fee is $3,200 per year. If we cashed in the Star Options for SPG points it's about 95,000. As for perks, they initially gave us 120,000 SPG points but I negotiated up to 160,000. Then they also give gold for life, I negotiated for a resort credit, and they include the ability to buy 90k points for $1900 4 times before December 1 2017.

Now, I'm having major remorse. I'm pretty good at racking up points because I travel for work and stay at SPG and can use my SPG Amex card. I'm having a hard time with paying $77k plus $3200 a year for a vacation I know I can score using my points or find a cheaper deal through my own capabilities.

Help me out folks. I'm on the verge of rescinding and not seeing the upside. I think I was enamored with all the SPG points but I don't want to have the maintenance fee hanging over my head. I read a ton of posts on here saying to buy on eBay second hand and think I am just silly for doing this.

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Rescind now. No upside to keeping, given your post.


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Thanks

I will rescind. This was for Nanea, btw. We came to Westin Maui for vacation. Sorry for failing to be clear before. Does that change anyone's perspective? We are still at the hote until Sunday and have some time to rescind while here

What other posters are advising is that you can buy an Ocean View, or Ocean Front deed at the Original Resort (which has GREAT Ocean Front Views) for far less money, and a much lower maintenance fee - about $1,000 per year less.

But I wouldn't buy, unless you want to visit the resort every year.