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Nice. Great example of the lack of respect and condescension that you refer to below.
My intention was clear and transparent. Sorry if you don't see that.
Do I think people buy phones on blind faith and/or advertising hype? Absolutely. Do I think Apple targets this type of consumer? Yep. Did I say you were one of these consumers? Nope. Go ask any 10 year old what kind of phone they want. They'll say iPhone. Do you think that's because they've heavily researched the features and judiciously ruled out other options, or because of advertising hype? Just typing this makes me laugh.
Now you're insinuating that those of us who prefer the iPhone make decisions like a 10-year old, though you try to exclude me from that group. Thanks.
I didn't imply that. I've said that others called you a "shill". I asked you to state your relationship with Apple. You implied I had a hidden agenda, remember? Otherwise, this wouldn't have come up.
Nice deflection.
Only in the same manner that I'd caution anyone buying anything that's so heavily advertised or hyped. I don't know about you, but when a company heavily advertises, it puts me on alert as to the underlying value of their product. I feel the same way about the Galaxy S5, for the record. Highly hyped. Message: Turn off the TV and do your own homework.
That's an interesting conclusion. So, should I avoid buying BMW, GM, or any other car manufacturers products because they also heavily advertise? What about cable companies, telecom providers, drug pharmacies, furniture stores, banks, or...almost any other industry? Just because they "heavily advertise" in my area doesn't necessarily inherently make me want to question the value of their product. Apple has a long history of providing excellent products that consistently receive high ratings by their users and independent reviewers. As a shareholder in the company, I would expect they would pursue whatever avenue they deem reasonable to increase sales and if that means they should "heavily advertise" then great!
I stated that Apple is behind and slowly adding features that Android has had for quite some time. Features that make Android easier to use. I stand by that.
Um...ok. Great! I hope these features make it to iOS, assuming they are relevant to the use of the iOS device.
For the record, I'll post how I want. You post how you want (and you should try better to adhere to your own guidelines). Not trying to be rude, but you don't get to dictate how I post. I've given far more examples of why I prefer Android than you have on why you prefer iOS.
This isn't the first time I've tried to encourage all of us to post particulars, and in response you've always tried to deflect by saying that I don't do what I suggest. Well, I have, just not in this thread. I don't think I need to list the number of features I think are great just to discuss the merits of features you think are important on Android. Note I've never said that Android is bad...I've just stated that my preference is for iOS. But I feel the need to respond when you post declaratory statements, as you did earlier in this thread, without balance. Only when challenged do you post, as you have before, that Apple makes a good product (though it's behind, etc etc). I prefer posts that are balanced.
From this comment of yours:
"Android also has a great system that works very well if you know what you're doing, want to spend time learning and customizing it, and generally like to tinker. If cost is the prime concern, then Android will appeal more, though there are iPhones available for quite low prices."
If you own an N5 you're being totally disingenuous when you make those type comments. The learning curve or amount of "tinkering" (??) required to use an N5 out of the box is virtually identical to that of an iPhone for someone who has never experienced either OS.
I didn't say I had a problem configuring my Nexus. I implied it was more difficult than my iPhone, and it is. It is not "identical". IIRC, you posted in previous threads that Android is perfect for the "tinkerer". Would you like me to find your posts that say that?
Lastly, to imply that I have some hidden relationship or agenda is simply not even a reasonable assumption based on anything I've ever posted on TUG. I don't. I outright stated that the better Apple does, the better off I am. As an engineer, I look for the best solution at a reasonable price. I don't care who makes the hardware or the software, within reason. If you don't believe that, that's fine w/me. I won't lose sleep.
I didn't imply that you have a hidden relationship. In fact, I said I didn't. But you like to twist words so don't let the facts stop you from writing whatever you like.
I think the "best solution at a reasonable price" is a great statement, and one which I agree with completely. Millions of people think the price for an iPhone is reasonable, because it is. And millions of people think the price for an Android phone is reasonable, because it is. iPhones are more expensive than Android phones. So what? Why does it bother you so much that others pay more than you think they should? Or, does it simply bother you that Apple is able to convince millions of people that their products are worth more than the competition? FYI, that's the hallmark of a great company.
Oh, and this might be a good time to remind everyone that Samsung lost money on their phone division last quarter. I know they're hoping for market share, but that isn't working either, at least in China according to the article below. I know that Apple is making a profit on every iPhone they sell, and that means that they will likely continue to research and develop additional features and versions, along with support the platform for years to come. The myriad of Android manufacturers don't all give me that sense of stability. Even Google, like Amazon, is likely not making a direct profit from the sale of the hardware. I'm not suggesting this should influence anyone's immediate purchase decision, but I think it's good to know.
After so much heavily advertising hype (!) from Samsung,
I'm surprised they aren't doing better. But then, they're not Apple. As an aside, I noticed recently that even Costco is again carrying Apple iOS devices...directly next to their Samsung display.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldk...-stumble-profits-down-against-chinese-rivals/
Yonhap quoted analyst Lee Min-hee at I’Min Investment & Securities Co. as attributing the sagging profits to the somewhat disappointing response to the new Galaxy S5 since its introduction in March just as the second quarter was about to begin. Samsung shipped approximately 17 million units of Galaxy S5 in the second quarter as opposed to 20 million units of Galaxy S4 in its first three months, according to Yonhap.
Most discomfiting for Samsung, “Users’ loyalty to the brand has fallen significantly,” Lee told Yonhap. Moreover, for the third quarter of this year Galaxy S5 is likely to sell only 6 million units compared with 16 million units of the Galaxy S4 sold “over the similar period.”
Samsung still ranks overall ahead of the combined total of all five of its main Chinese rivals with a 26% market share compared with their 20%. For Samsung, however, that’s a stunning drop from its previous share of a minimum of 30%.