New cancelled points policy and the credit pool

jjmanthei05 · Aug 7, 2015

NHTraveler said:
So, it seems a lot of people use the credit pool.

Has there ever been a time where you wanted to book something using your credit pool points and the points were not available?

Is credit pooling more valuable to those folks that use it with the new no cancelled points rule...where the cancelled point become regular and put back in the credit pool without a fee?

I have avoided the whole credit pool thing because I was afraid the pool would be empty when I decided to jump in (make a reservation).

I don't think this is an issue because there are quite a few people that pool future points to use them now. so there is a balance of both people who extend the points and people who pull them forward.

Jason

debrinkleyusa · Aug 13, 2015

If I am following the logic in these threads correctly, it sounds like the recent changes are going to make it easier to avoid having points expire if we use the credit pool. For example, credit pool points with an expiration date in 2018 could be used to book a 2016 reservation. If we cancel and rebook, whatever leftover points we get back will go back to having a 2018 expiration date. Has anyone tested this yet?

Thanks to all who contribute to the forum. Your replies are very helpful.

Best,
DB

am1 · Aug 13, 2015

debrinkleyusa said:
If I am following the logic in these threads correctly, it sounds like the recent changes are going to make it easier to avoid having points expire if we use the credit pool. For example, credit pool points with an expiration date in 2018 could be used to book a 2016 reservation. If we cancel and rebook, whatever leftover points we get back will go back to having a 2018 expiration date. Has anyone tested this yet?

Thanks to all who contribute to the forum. Your replies are very helpful.

Best,
DB

You are correct. There is less need to credit pool early and option to credit pool regular use year points that were once used for a reservation a nice help. Will this make the pool go dry for awhile is the question?

Ty1on · Aug 13, 2015

am1 said:
Will this make the pool go dry for awhile is the question?

Take this as an attempt to understand rather than an argument.....wouldn't the new rule increase credit pool inventory as cancellations are returned to the pool instead of left in member accounts as cancelled points?

Bigrob · Aug 13, 2015

Ty1on said:
Take this as an attempt to understand rather than an argument.....wouldn't the new rule increase credit pool inventory as cancellations are returned to the pool instead of left in member accounts as cancelled points?

I would also think it will incent people to credit pool if they aren't going to using ARP and don't deposit to RCI. That way they aren't left with odd bits at the end of the year. I think overall credit pool usage will increase and availability should also increase.

am1 · Aug 13, 2015

Ty1on said:
Take this as an attempt to understand rather than an argument.....wouldn't the new rule increase credit pool inventory as cancellations are returned to the pool instead of left in member accounts as cancelled points?

You may be right. But my thinking is people will wait as long as they can to deposit the points into the credit pool. Every September 30th I will be evaluating how many points I want for the rest of the year. There could be a lag time between now and when that happens.

Since Wyndham realigned use years there are a lot more points starting January 1. That means December could be the month the credit pool goes dry.

Or it is possible that Wyndham floats the credit pool when needed so there are no issues.

Myxdvz · Aug 14, 2015

Can someone confirm if I am understanding this correctly --

> Cancelled points from reservations made with Credit pool points, go back to being Credit Pool Points
> Credit Pool points can't be deposited to RCI

Does that follow that for those who credit pool EVERYTHING (except ARP), that there won't by any more points eligible for RCI deposit?

I'm trying to figure out if that's good or bad. The prior recommendations were to credit pool everything once you've made your ARP reservations. Or credit pool everything except points you might need for ARP.

For those who still want to deposit to RCI for DVC purposes -- where will they get their points? I used to only deposit "unused points" to RCI, and I normally have some (either cancelled or left over). If I credit pool everything, it seems I wouldn't have anything for RCI. I'd have to choose to deposit to RCI before I credit pool points.

Am I missing something?

Ty1on · Aug 14, 2015

Myxdvz said:
Can someone confirm if I am understanding this correctly --

> Cancelled points from reservations made with Credit pool points, go back to being Credit Pool Points
> Credit Pool points can't be deposited to RCI

Does that follow that for those who credit pool EVERYTHING (except ARP), that there won't by any more points eligible for RCI deposit?

I'm trying to figure out if that's good or bad. The prior recommendations were to credit pool everything once you've made your ARP reservations. Or credit pool everything except points you might need for ARP.

For those who still want to deposit to RCI for DVC purposes -- where will they get their points? I used to only deposit "unused points" to RCI, and I normally have some (either cancelled or left over). If I credit pool everything, it seems I wouldn't have anything for RCI. I'd have to choose to deposit to RCI before I credit pool points.

Am I missing something?

That would be correct. I think you can look at the alternatives of different ways to bank your points for future use at your or another resort. Which you choose would depend upon whether you will want to use those banked points within the Wyndham system (with no exchange fee) or trade for an outside resort, paying the exchange fee. I think either choice is final once you act.

My opinion is that if you will want DVC and you know for certain that is what you will want, deposit in RCI.

ronparise · Aug 14, 2015

Myxdvz said:
The prior recommendations were to credit pool everything once you've made your ARP reservations. Or credit pool everything except points you might need for ARP.

For those who still want to deposit to RCI for DVC purposes -- where will they get their points? I used to only deposit "unused points" to RCI, and I normally have some (either cancelled or left over). If I credit pool everything, it seems I wouldn't have anything for RCI. I'd have to choose to deposit to RCI before I credit pool points.

Am I missing something?

That recommendation to credit pool everything except what you reserve for ARP sounds like me... but its not a recommendation; Its what works for me,

if you like Ill modify it though.. I credit pool everything except what I reserve for ARP or RCI

Myxdvz · Aug 14, 2015

The thing is, I don't actually reserve points for RCI. I only use RCI as a last resort since I don't think it's the best use of my points. And DVC 2 BR has been non-existent lately so I wouldn't want to reserve regular points for those.

Looks like I'm going to have to rethink the strategy. Maybe this is actually a good thing - I just haven't decided.

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Ty1on · Aug 14, 2015

Myxdvz said:
The thing is, I don't actually reserve points for RCI. I only use RCI as a last resort since I don't think it's the best use of my points. And DVC 2 BR has been non-existent lately so I wouldn't want to reserve regular points for those.

Looks like I'm going to have to rethink the strategy. Maybe this is actually a good thing - I just haven't decided.

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It all comes down to your best use, really. It is unquestionably true that where you once may have been able to cancel and deposit CP points in RCI, that is no longer the case. But, if you are primarily a user of the Wyndham system, this is definitely advantageous for you, as cancelled CP points go back to the pool with their original expiry, and you aren't stuck with dumping them in RCI with the hope of figuring out something to do with them.

And 2BR DVC have been non-existent independently of the rules change, so the change itself shouldn't factor into your decision process. Either you want to take a shot at landing a DVC, or you don't. The risk, before and now, is that you don't find the interval you need, and you are left scrambling for an alternative RCI interval that is acceptable to your needs.