Marriott Vacation Club no longer counts for elite nights?

cybernaut · Oct 6, 2014

I have been told twice recently (once at Marriott StreamSide in Vail and once in preparation for Marriott Frenchman's cove) that my stays at Vacation Club resorts will no longer count as nights for Rewards Program elite status.

Anyone else able to confirm?

I'm going to miss Platinum Elite and United Silver.

GrayFal · Oct 6, 2014

cybernaut said:
I have been told twice recently (once at Marriott StreamSide in Vail and once in preparation for Marriott Frenchman's cove) that my stays at Vacation Club resorts will no longer count as nights for Rewards Program elite status.

Anyone else able to confirm?

I'm going to miss Platinum Elite and United Silver.

Just got credited this week for a 9/14-21/14 stay....be sure to add your MR number to the Resie.

Fasttr · Oct 6, 2014

cybernaut said:
I have been told twice recently (once at Marriott StreamSide in Vail and once in preparation for Marriott Frenchman's cove) that my stays at Vacation Club resorts will no longer count as nights for Rewards Program elite status.

Anyone else able to confirm?

I'm going to miss Platinum Elite and United Silver.

See THIS post.

dioxide45 · Oct 6, 2014

Fasttr said:
See THIS post.

As the post indicates, Streamside won't provide Elite Night credit. Though the MFC should count. Just make sure the MR number is on the reservation ahead of or at checkin.

mav · Oct 7, 2014

The way I understand it , most resorts do count them but a few don't. We were at the Marriott timeshare in Bangkok for in a 3 bedroom unit this past February and they did not count. The place however was great, wonderful service, staff, CLEAN unit, location to skyway, etc. and that what really counted for me.

Wally3433 · Oct 7, 2014

mav said:
The way I understand it , most resorts do count them but a few don't. We were at the Marriott timeshre in Bankok for in a 3 bedroom unit this past February and they did not count. The place however was great, wonderful service, staff, CLEAN unit, location to skyway, etc. and that what really counted for me.

Clearly you are misguided.

We all know its about the points and the elite night credits!

n777lt · Oct 7, 2014

mav said:
The way I understand it , most resorts do count them but a few don't. We were at the Marriott timeshre in Bankok for in a 3 bedroom unit this past February and they did not count. The place however was great, wonderful service, staff, CLEAN unit, location to skyway, etc. and that what really counted for me.

The Bangkok timeshare (MVC at Empire Place) is part of the Asian Pacific system - I don't think you get nights credit for any of the properties in that system. :annoyed:

SueDonJ · Oct 7, 2014

From the Marriott Rewards Program Terms & Conditions found here:

... 11. Members may earn and redeem Points at participating Marriott hotel brands and The Ritz-Carlton hotels: ...

o. Marriott Vacation Club® International - all locations except:

Marriott's StreamSide Evergreen, Vail, CO

Marriott's StreamSide Douglas, Vail, CO

Marriott's StreamSide Birch, Vail, CO

47 Park Street - Marriott Grand Residence Club, UK

Marriott Vacation Club at The Empire Place, Bangkok, Thailand

Marriott Vacation Club at The Buckingham, Macau, China

Cybernaut, what you were told, that Elite Nights and MRP's do not accrue with ANY Vacation Club stays, is not correct. StreamSide and only three other resorts in the entire portfolio are specifically noted as not participating in the program; all of the rest do participate. If you're staying at MFC on an Owner's Week, DC Points, an II exchange, or a (non-promotional) cash basis, you should get the MR credits. As dioxide said above, make sure your MR number is attached to the reservation. You can do that by following the directions in this post.

rylan · Oct 8, 2014

I've been earning elite nights and points for years at the vacationclub stays.

Note that MFC does have issues with putting the number in the system properly. I have a 0% track record of getting points and night credit to show up without having to contact Marriott and have them credit manually. Apparently they chronically put the number in the system with the wrong prefix (something else instead of MR).

camachinist · Oct 9, 2014

I have my account set to attach my MR# to my reservations with MVC and, so far, they've all received elite nights, including this year, and it apparently doesn't matter whether I stay or my tenants do. This year it's been all tenants and I got the elite nights and any points from their spend, most recently in July. I'm unclear about how that works but it might be due to 'adding' their name to the reservation with MVC. When I pull up reservations, my name is always first, then the tenants. Anyway, I've been getting elite nights as long as I can remember. The value of being an elite varies. For the most part, I see little value, except for those who gain gold or platinum (primarily platinum). I'm currently gold due to rollover nights.

SueDonJ · Oct 9, 2014

camachinist said:
I have my account set to attach my MR# to my reservations with MVC and, so far, they've all received elite nights, including this year, and it apparently doesn't matter whether I stay or my tenants do. This year it's been all tenants and I got the elite nights and any points from their spend, most recently in July. I'm unclear about how that works but it might be due to 'adding' their name to the reservation with MVC. When I pull up reservations, my name is always first, then the tenants. Anyway, I've been getting elite nights as long as I can remember. The value of being an elite varies. For the most part, I see little value, except for those who gain gold or platinum (primarily platinum). I'm currently gold due to rollover nights.

Yes, you're being credited for your guests' stays because your name and MR Number don't get taken off of the reservation. If your guests are Marriott Rewards members they could, though, present their MR Number at check-in to get the Points and Nights credited to their accounts. Your name would still stay on the reservation, only the MR Number attached to it would change.

{eta} The same thing happens occasionally with II exchanges. If the Owner's MR Number is attached to the reservation prior to it being deposited in II, and the person who gets the deposit in exchange does not attach a new MR Number to the reservation, then the Nights and Points (for incidental spends) may be credited to the Owner. I believe this is the reason it's sometimes such a hassle to attach an MR Number to an II exchange prior to check-in, because there's a system disconnect in the deposit transaction that affects only the MR field.

camachinist · Oct 9, 2014

Yeah, I always tell tenants to stick their MRP# on the reservation at check-in but, so far, nothing has, at least in recent memory, come of that, which is surprising because some tenants are repeat customers and routinely stay (they say) at MVC properties.

It'll be interesting to see any changes in this policy moving forward. Respecting that Marriott can change terms and conditions at any time and without notice, what works today is never guaranteed to work tomorrow. I've come to expect that from Marriott.

I recall one tenant going to a sales presentation and ultimately purchasing two developer intervals and they credited my account for the 'friend share' since it was the listed number on the reservation and apparently the tenant had not made another designation at the time of the purchase. It'd be interesting to know if that loophole has been closed or not.

cpcat · Oct 9, 2014

Why doesn't Streamside at Vail participate in MRP?

Anyone know?

mav · Oct 10, 2014

n777lt said:
The Bangkok timeshare (MVC at Empire Place) is part of the Asian Pacific system - I don't think you get nights credit for any of the properties in that system. :annoyed:

Yes, that is exactly what I was told. The Empire Place is, however, lovely in every way, with a wonderful staff and included daily housekeeping and they also had a bowl of fruit and a bowl of treats in the unit on arrival. There was also a pitcher of juice in the fridge and they refilled that every day. 6 litter bottles of water was left everyday, and while we were there DH had a birthday. When we got back to the unit that day there was a lovely cake on the table for us in the unit. Yes, it was indeed a wonderful stay days credits or not.

MALC9990 · Oct 10, 2014

n777lt said:
The Bangkok timeshare (MVC at Empire Place) is part of the Asian Pacific system - I don't think you get nights credit for any of the properties in that system. :annoyed:

Incorrect. Whilst Empire Place does not give elite night credits and is documented as such in the Marriott Rewards section of Marriott.Com, all the other AP Club Resorts do give Elite night credits. Phuket Beach Club, Grand Chateau, Waiohai etc all give elite night credits. Also if a club member uses AP Points to stay at a Club Connections Hotel, then Elite nights credits is given, however I always have to fight Marriott Rewards for those nights but MVCI always intervene in that fight if necessary and get the nights credited.

n777lt · Oct 11, 2014

n777lt said:
The Bangkok timeshare (MVC at Empire Place) is part of the Asian Pacific system - I don't think you get nights credit for any of the properties in that system. :annoyed:

Please note, based on two knowledgeable posters' posts above - my quoted generalization is wrong - I'd delete this post if I could but the bbs isn't offering me the option!

SueDonJ · Oct 11, 2014

n777lt said:
Please note, based on two knowledgeable posters' posts above - my quoted generalization is wrong - I'd delete this post if I could but the bbs isn't offering me the option!

A post can be edited by its writer only up to 48 hours after it has been posted. After that, you can ask a moderator to perform any edits. Unless it's a post that will cause confusion or problems if it remains, it's probably best to leave it in place as is so as not to disrupt the discussion's flow.

Believe me, n777lt, we've all learned something by posting info only to have it corrected by someone else. No worries.

SueDonJ · Oct 11, 2014

cpcat said:
Why doesn't Streamside at Vail participate in MRP?

Anyone know?

I think it has something to do with whatever caused the separation of two of the buildings from Marriott, probably related to a three-year Special Assessment that was levied. At one time there were five StreamSide buildings included under Marriott's management; now Evergreen, Douglas and Birch remain while Aspen and Cedar are VRI-managed. The history is tough to put together even using TUG searches but it goes back further than 2009.

cpcat · Oct 11, 2014

SueDonJ said:
I think it has something to do with whatever caused the separation of two of the buildings from Marriott, probably related to a three-year Special Assessment that was levied. At one time there were five StreamSide buildings included under Marriott's management; now Evergreen, Douglas and Birch remain while Aspen and Cedar are VRI-managed. The history is tough to put together even using TUG searches but it goes back further than 2009.

Thank you Susan

SueDonJ · Oct 11, 2014

cpcat said:
Thank you Susan

You're welcome. I'd also like to see the history fleshed out more than I could find because StreamSide Weeks weren't always completely separate from the MR Program - or at least, MRP incentives were included with a direct purchase when Marriott sold StreamSide Weeks. I don't know what that means, if anything, because Elite Night credits weren't given for any owner-usage timeshare stays until July, 2008, so I'm unsure if the MRP-incentive-with-purchase meant that StreamSide Weeks were at one time as integrated in the program as any other Weeks?

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