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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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[2012] Genesis Collection Platinum
Has anyone had any dealings with them? We were in cabo over a month ago and purchased a studio for two weeks a year for 30 years
We have yet to receive any email or snail mail from them and all of my attempts to contact them are futile. I would appreciate any input as I am new to this site |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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Anyone?
I notice a number of views. |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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Contract
Out contract states that they will have provided us with online login information within 45 days, which they haven't done yet (day 42)
Does anyone know If we could then void it and get our deposit back. Would American express be able to credit it back for us if we explain the situation? Thanks |
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: Oct 30, 05
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 192
Resorts: Eagle's Nest, Wyndham Pts, Westgate TC, Mizner Place, Sunset Cove, Marriotts KoOlina/Ocean Pointe (2 Gold)/Waiohai |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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We purchased at Marina Fiesta and were told we could to either there or Hacienda Encantada
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: Oct 30, 05
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 192
Resorts: Eagle's Nest, Wyndham Pts, Westgate TC, Mizner Place, Sunset Cove, Marriotts KoOlina/Ocean Pointe (2 Gold)/Waiohai |
I have looked around the website and they have many methods of contact. I assume you have tried all of these with no results then I would not hesitate to contact American Express. AE has always been good with me in regard to getting funds returned when there was a major problem, however, I must admit my charges were not a lot of money compared to what I suspect you have at stake. Do they even talk to you when you call/email etc.?????
Jim |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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All emails get bounced backed and using the contact us area on the website has gone ignored.
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 6, 05
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,646
Resorts: So Cal, Hawaii, Mexico |
Information
Try this number, 1-866-542-7627 it is for Global Bureau which is the managment company for Marina Fiesta and Encantada
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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Any other victims or owners?
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Aug 22, 11
Location: Shawnee, OK
Posts: 7
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Did they give you an incentive to attend?
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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We received two hundred dollar vouchers and a discount card for their restaurants.
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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Resolved
At the end of March I contacted American Express to get a refund of my purchase at Marina Fiesta for the Genesis Collection Platinum. I had received nothing from the property or company since our purchase at the beginning of February. I had attempted to both call and email, but wasn't successful in any of my attempts.
Yesterday I received a letter from Amex stating that they were refunding my money, including foreign transaction fees. So, not that this necessarily guarantees it is a scam, I would be beware. |
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TUG Lifetime Member
BBS Reg. Date: Aug 17, 04
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 6,521
Resorts: Pueblo Bonito Rose |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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Uh oh
I think I may have a problem now.
This morning, out of the blue, an email arrived from the property with log in information. Does anyone know how it is best to proceed? I don't want to do business with a company that it took an Amex investigation to get them to respond to me. Am I obligated to continue with them now? Does their original contract that stated within 45 days have any standing? Thanks |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Mar 4, 12
Posts: 11
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Anyone happen to have any insights for me?
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Dec 9, 10
Posts: 27
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Sdliving,
I have checked out the website and looks much like it has copy-paste information from other websites. I do not know how much money you paid for this timeshare deal but seems like they had to see you had a CC dispute in order to provide you with you log in information. My advise to you is try and get you refund through AMEX and forget about this timeshare. If you had trouble getting a hold of them, imagine the trouble when trying to get a reservation.
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Jose Gonzalez Never pay upfront to sell, rent, donate or cancel your timeshare. |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 4, 12
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 3
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Just bought it on June 1st and am having buyers remorse.
Sdliving, Please let me know how it turned out! Last edited by bababooey; June 5, 2012 at 09:47 AM. |
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Moderator
TUG Lifetime Member
BBS Reg. Date: Aug 17, 04
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 6,521
Resorts: Pueblo Bonito Rose |
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: Feb 10, 07
Location: Twin Falls, Eye-Duh-Hoe
Posts: 8,415
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+1 on Rescind TODAY! TODAY is DAY 5 on a 5 day rescission period. Get it postmarked today!
If your cold feet warm up later on, believe me, the deal will still be there. In fact you can bet they will sweeten the pot. But for now, get out of this deal and study what you can buy in timeshares from the resale market (eBay and TUG marketplace or Bargain Deals are good places to start) before you spend any money. Jim Ricks |
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TUG Member
BBS Reg. Date: May 22, 10
Location: PA
Posts: 28
Resorts: Historic Powhatan Resort, DRI. |
To put this in perspective...
...a 2 bedroom lockoff at Hacienda Encantada, with RTU until 2048, just sold on ebay for $113. The seller paid all closing costs and resort transfer fees, to the cost to buyer was $113 for everything included.
If you really want a place there, wait a while and watch the ads until one comes up. Then you can travel, rent it yourself, or put it in II for trade as desired.
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 4, 12
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 3
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Wow!
I found a form letter from this link www.mescam.com/cancelation It has some good information on there and also suggests copying PROFECO (the Mexican Federal Consumer Protection Agency at: extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx ) |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Jun 4, 12
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 3
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It's been almost 3 weeks and still no refund. My salesman, Mauricio P has refused to answer any of my emails.
A couple of tricks they pulled that I should of caught. First, they tell you they like to do the presentation early in your vacation so you can get it out of the way and enjoy your vacation but the truth is that most people won't have a change of heart until they get back and by then the 4 days have passed. That is the reason Mauricio also offered me an extra couple of days stay free of charge. The second one is they have a ridiculous interest rate so that you will refinance and pay them off. This way they have all your money. These tricks may be obvious to vets of the timeshare wars but not to a lot of us newbies. Bottom line is STAY AWAY FROM GENESIS COLLECTION IN CABO!!!! Take their freebies then just say No! |
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Oct 12, 12
Posts: 2
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I have been with Gensis two years and it does NOT get any better
We paid more than we should then had payments monthly for a year. They had our credit card but kept saying that we were not paying. We finally tracked down the company in Arizona (Concord Services Corporation ) and spent a lot of time trying to explain that we want to pay.. that was a mistake. Now, it has been two years and we have a yearly memberhsip that is due in August. When I tried logging on to the site it says that my ID has expired. I have called Rueben literally 20 times and emailed him and it has been over a month and nothing has changed. I just told him via email that we paid a lot for nothing and I want the owner/president of Genesis to call me; I really want our money back ! ! We own a couple of timeshares and I have NEVER had such poor customer service in my life ! !
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Oct 12, 12
Posts: 2
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Genesis is not a timeshare- you cannot trade
it is a membership not a timeshare. I own there (sorry I do) but I was told you do not trade unless you do it under the radar....
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Guest
BBS Reg. Date: Jan 24, 13
Location: Aurora, CO
Posts: 6
Resorts: Genesis Collection - Marina Fiesta/Hacienda Encantata |
Genesis Collection Website Down
I've been trying to make reservations through the Genesis Collection website for over 3 weeks. I get an error that states "User Expired". I've contacted dozens of numbers, including Gwen at Concord Servicing Corporation which is the site that collects the annual registration fee who confirmed my web account is in good standing; Marina Fiesta Reservations, who told me they couldn't find my account in their "new" website. After dozens of phone calls and transfers, I finally reached Denisse Gonzalez, Member Services, Genesis Collection Platinum at 619-793-4779. Denisse is, supposedly, the Genesis Collection direct contact. She's located in San Diego, and does speak English. Her email is: memberservices@genesiscollectionplatinum.com.
However, she has basically given me 2+ weeks of empty promises - my converted web account will be available by last week - didn't happen, plus earlier promises to call my by Sunday the 13th of January - didn't happen, etc. I wrote the Secretary of Tourism for Mexico and got a auto reply that I would hear back from them in 48 hours. That hasn't happened either. Thinking it might jar Denisse into some valid action, I emailed her a copy of what I sent them. We bought into the collection in late November, 2010, with Marina Fiesta being our home resort and have used it only once, when I took my neighbor down after she watched our cat for us while we were on an cruise in 2011. The reservation for that was a hassle, but I chalked it up to my inexperience with their site. Now, I'm convinced it is truly a scam. I believe I will contact my credit card company - even though it's been so long ago to see if they will refund our $$$ since they are not living up to their 30-year agreement. If anyone has any other suggestions, I'd love to hear them. |
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