Question about WKORVN view categories?

PamMo · Apr 9, 2010

Can anyone help me with this? I've looked at maps of WKORV-N and am trying to figure out what the view categories are. I know Marriott (among others) has color-coded resort maps for room types, is there such a map for WKORV/WKORVN? Which rooms are considered oceanfront at WKORV-N? Oceanview? Island? Are all the "inside" facing rooms (5X17-7X64) considered island? Are all the "outside" rooms oceanview? It looks like all of Bldg. 8 and part of Bldg. 5 is oceanfront.

Any help would be greatly appreciated - thanks!

Pam

Quimby4 · Apr 9, 2010

Check out the Sticky in the Starwood forum.
I had the same question the other day

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77373

PamMo · Apr 9, 2010

Yeah, I've been looking at that, but I'd like to know how Starwood classifies the room view category. We've had different room views that I thought were a little wonky (stand out on the lanai on the table to get "oceanview"). I was wondering if there is an official (or unofficial) map that tells exactly how the resort classifies the view?

DeniseM · Apr 9, 2010

There may be a view map, but we don't have one on TUG. There are definitely some problems with the view categories at WKORV-N. Some units labeled "ocean front" actually only have a partial ocean view. Some labeled "ocean view" have a very marginal ocean view.

The OF units at the first resort - WKORV have far superior Ocean Front views. The are all full, ocean front, square to the ocean.

PamMo · Apr 9, 2010

Thanks, Denise. I figured if anyone knew the answer, you would. Specifically, I"m wondering about the view category of 5X17/19? Listed as oceanfront, but I don't think Starwood would even classify it as oceanview. It's around the corner on the inside of Bldg 5.

And you're right - those oceanfront rooms in the original are really wonderful!!!!

DeniseM · Apr 9, 2010

The numbers are formatted like this:
1st number - bldg.
2nd number - floor
3rd/4th number - unit number

So you shouldn't have an "x" in there.

A high floor 17/19 unit may have a peak at the ocean from the corner of the unit.

Are you looking at rentals or what?

DavidnRobin · Apr 9, 2010

I think 5x17/19 is an OV or IV villa not OF - I don't have my CCRs (Owners Manual) for WKORVN with me (on my external hard-drive) but if I recall correctly all of B8 is OF, and B5 up to villa 5x16.

The OM has the listings the units and associated view catagories - or call SVO and ask.

x = floor number.

Ken555 · Apr 9, 2010

PamMo said:
Thanks, Denise. I figured if anyone knew the answer, you would. Specifically, I"m wondering about the view category of 5X17/19? Listed as oceanfront, but I don't think Starwood would even classify it as oceanview. It's around the corner on the inside of Bldg 5.

There is no way 5x17/19 is ocean view or ocean front.

DavidnRobin · Apr 9, 2010

I assume you are asking because of the eBay auction that just finished (or a major coincidence...). Did you win this auction? Be warned that these guys screw up their auctions (alot) - how hard can it be? Especialy for a resort like WKORVN.

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=893635&postcount=469

PamMo · Apr 9, 2010

Ken555 said:
There is no way 5x17/19 is ocean view or ocean front.

That's what I was thinking when I looked it up on the map. The unit number is 5317/19 - I couldn't remember what floor it was on. So, island view it is then? Just sold on eBay.

LisaRex · Apr 9, 2010

Denise, you may want to add this to the sticky. Here are the WKORV-N view designations as written in the Owner's Manual:

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=468466&postcount=1

5x17/19 is island view.

gregb · Apr 9, 2010

From the June 2008 Owner's Handbook, Ocean Resort Villas North, First Amendment to Declarations of Condominium Property Regime of Ocean Resort Villas North, Exhibit B, Schedule 1, starting on page 317.

Building 5, all floors, units 01/02 thru 15/16 are defined as Ocean Front Villa.
Building 5, all floors, units 19/17 thru 22/24 are defined as Island Villa.

Building 6, all floors, all units are Island Villa.

Building 7, 1st floor, all units are Island Villa except 67/68, which is Ocean Villa.
Building 7, 2nd floor, units 60/59 - 63/64 and 78/77 - 84/83 are Island Villa.
Building 7, 2nd floor, units 65/66 - 76/75 are Ocean Villa.
Building 7, floors 3 - 5, units 60/59 - 63/64 are Island Villa
Building 7, floors 3 - 5, units 65/66 - 84/83 are Ocean Villa.
Building 7, 6th floor, units 60/59 - 63/64 are Island Villa.
Building 7, 6th floor, units 65/66 - 78/77 are Ocean Villa.

Building 8, all floors, all units are defined as Ocean Front.

Greg

DeniseM · Apr 9, 2010

Thanks Lisa and Greg! I added that info. to the map.

DeniseM · Apr 9, 2010

PamMo said:
That's what I was thinking when I looked it up on the map. The unit number is 5317/19 - I couldn't remember what floor it was on. So, island view it is then? Just sold on eBay.

I have noticed that some eBay sellers call everything "ocean front" if the resort is OF.

capjak · Apr 9, 2010

DeniseM said:
There may be a view map, but we don't have one on TUG. There are definitely some problems with the view categories at WKORV-N. Some units labeled "ocean front" actually only have a partial ocean view. Some labeled "ocean view" have a very marginal ocean view.

The OF units at the first resort - WKORV have far superior Ocean Front views. The are all full, ocean front, square to the ocean.

I think they both have issue (i.e. WKORV and WKORV-N) I was in WKORV oceanview and could hardly see the ocean where in WKORV-N it was better, really depends on building and floor.

DeniseM · Apr 9, 2010

capjak said:
I think they both have issue (i.e. WKORV and WKORV-N) I was in WKORV oceanview and could hardly see the ocean where in WKORV-N it was better, really depends on building and floor.

I think both resorts have some units with terrible "ocean views" - it does depend on the location and the floor, but the real glaring difference is the Ocean Front designation.

The "ocean front" units at WKORV are clearly superior to WKORV-N. When WKORV-N first opened, ocean front owners who paid huge amounts of money to be ocean front, were furious about some of the units with marginal views that were labeled "ocean front" by Starwood. I think Starwood really screwed up at WKORV-N by trying to stretch the ocean front category, so they could make more money. I think that's why the decided not to designate views at WPORV.

YYJMSP · Apr 9, 2010

WKORV units/views

gregb said:
From the June 2008 Owner's Handbook, Ocean Resort Villas North, First Amendment to Declarations of Condominium Property Regime of Ocean Resort Villas North, Exhibit B, Schedule 1, starting on page 317.

Here's the equivalent information for WKORV from the February 2009 Owner's Handbook, starting on page 32:

Building 2, all floors, units 30/31 are Ocean Front
Building 2, all floors, units 26/28 and 27/29 are Deluxe Ocean Front
Building 2, everything else is Ocean View

Building 3, all floors, units 30/31 are Ocean Front
Building 3, all floors, units 26/28 and 27/29 are Deluxe Ocean Front
Building 3, everything else is Ocean View

Building 4, 2nd to 6th floors, units 11 and 13 are Ocean View
Building 4, all floors, units 07/09 are Ocean View
Building 4, all floors, units 03/05 are Deluxe Ocean View
Building 4, all floors, units 02/04, 18/20 and 19/21 are Deluxe Island View
Building 4, everything else is Island View

PamMo · Apr 9, 2010

Thanks for clearing it up!

Many, many thanks for all the quick and very clear replies. I'm always so impressed by how TUGgers help each other out.

Yes, I won the auction, and after contacting the resort and talking with the seller, the sale was cancelled. It was still a good price for an annual 2BR, but with Ka'anapali's high MF's for any view, I want to see the ocean. Interestingly, the resort is saying you could get ANY view. Technically, that's true. An island view owner could get bumped up to ocean view or ocean front, but I sure wouldn't count on it.

Thanks again. That information is GREAT to have on the sticky!

Pam

DavidnRobin · Apr 9, 2010

If you want OF - buy WKORV-south
glad it worked out

I had a friend that paid $48K for a WKORVN-IV
I rescinded a WKORVN OF at ~$70K (upon finding TUG)

paluamalia · Apr 10, 2010

Building 6 Island View

We stayed in Building 6 in Feb/March...6652, here is a photo of the view.....the salesperson told us it was Island View, but it looks like OV to me...we exchanged at the first 8 month window..

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=800&stc=1&d=1270937034

If the photo did not come out and you want to see it send me an e:mail

captionerlady · May 25, 2010

Hi.

I'm trying to figure out how the room numbers work for WKOVR. I see there are only buildings 2-4. So when I see unit listed as 452018 or 512018 or 531009, can anyone explain which is the building number, floor number and room(s) numbers.

Thanks,
Lisa

YYJMSP · May 25, 2010

captionerlady said:
Hi.

I'm trying to figure out how the room numbers work for WKOVR. I see there are only buildings 2-4. So when I see unit listed as 452018 or 512018 or 531009, can anyone explain which is the building number, floor number and room(s) numbers.

Thanks,
Lisa

The first is at WKORV, the other two are at WKORVN.

452018 = Building 4, floor 5, units 20 and 18 -- a Deluxe 2BR Island View at WKORV
512018 = Building 5, floor 1, units 20 and 18 -- a 2BR Island View at WKORVN
531009 = Building 5, floor 3, units 10 and 09 -- a 2BR Ocean Front at WKORVN

glypnirsgirl · May 25, 2010

On those that have the 6 digits the first digit is the building, the second is the floor the next two are one unit and the next two are the second unit - its a 2 bedroom lock-off.

elaine

DeniseM · May 25, 2010

captionerlady said:
Hi.

I'm trying to figure out how the room numbers work for WKOVR. I see there are only buildings 2-4. So when I see unit listed as 452018 or 512018 or 531009, can anyone explain which is the building number, floor number and room(s) numbers.

Thanks,
Lisa

Here is a map - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77371

carolbol · Aug 24, 2010

I just found out that I am in Bldg 2 2 24. I willl be thee from 6/4-6/11/2011.
Thanks to Denise and others, am assuming from what I read that I am in bldg 2 ,seond floor, room 24.....can anyone tell me what my view will be? Will it be limited due to the floor?

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