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Week #'s to US Holiday reference?

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swaits

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Hi all,

Wondering if anyone has a decent reference of which week numbers relate to specific popular US Holidays?

For example, what week do folks consider the standard Thanksgiving week? Or, Spring/Fall break? Presidents Day, etc. Furthermore, do you call both 51 and 52 Christmas weeks?

This would be a handy reference when looking at resales. And, if it doesn't exist, I plan on putting it together myself.

Asking in the Marriott forum in case the weeks are specific to Marriott's way of doing things.

Thanks!
 
Week 51 is considered Christmas week and week 52 New Years, most years; however, depending on the arrival date it can occasionally change. If you purchase a week 51 it will always include Christmas Day and if you purchase a week 52 it will always include New Years, even if the week numbers are 52 and 53 for certain arrival dates.

Presidents' week is week 7
Spring break week can be 13 or 14, and is Easter week.

Thanksgiving is always the fourth Thursday in Nov.; as far as I know, no resort has Thanksgiving as a fixed holiday week.
 
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Just be careful to double check your weeks for specific resorts. For example,

Week 7 (Saturday check-in) 2013 for Grande Ocean is: Feb 16 – Feb 23.

Down the road... Week 7, 2013 for Monarch is: Feb 23 – Mar 2.

I recall a mention that Monarch is different due to its origin as a non-Marriott resort. Just saying.... .don't assume.
 
m61376 said:
Thanksgiving is always the third Thursday in Nov.; as far as I know, no resort has Thanksgiving as a fixed holiday week.
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Actually, I think Thanksgiving is the fourth Thursday. It is this year anyway.
 
If you use Microsoft Outlook calendar this is done automatically. The week numbers for any given year are displayed on the calendar with the US holidays.
 
Ok, I looked at the next 100 years to see where US Holidays fall, and came up with this list:

  • Martin Luther King, Jr. Day - Week 3 (86%), Week 2 (43%)
  • Presidents' Day - Weeks 7 (100%), Week 8 (29%)
  • Spring Break - Weeks 13 & 14 (rough guess, varies greatly)
  • Memorial Day - Week 21 (83%), Week 22 (46%)
  • Independence Day - Week 26 (83%), Week 27 (75%)
  • Labor Day - Week 35 (69%), Week 36 (60%)
  • Columbus Day - Week 41 (89%), Week 40 (40%)
  • Veterans Day - Week 45 (100%), Week 46 (11%)
  • Thanksgiving - Week 47 (89%), Week 46 (40%)
  • Christmas Day - Week 51 (97%), Week 52 (60%)
  • New Year's Day - Week 52 (97%), Week 53 (46%), Week 1 (42%)

This was done in code and does factor in "timeshare weeks". In other words, it just looks at the actual Fri-Fri/Sat-Sat/Sun-Sun weeks in each year. In the cases where the holiday fell across two weeks I've included both week numbers. The percentage numbers show how often that holiday will fall inside that timeshare week.

I welcome any and all feedback on this. Have I made some mistakes? Or false assumptions? Can we eliminate some of the "double weeks" from this list? Is this useful?

Edited: added Spring Break and adjusted Christmas/New Year to be 51/52 instead of 52/1

Edited: completely revamped, cleaned up, made more accurate, etc. :)

Edited: don't count weeks which include a check-out on the actual holiday in question
 
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I think it's useful but it may help you to review the specific resort calendars as well when you're looking at Marriott resales, especially for those few resorts which offer fixed weeks. Here is TUGger dioxide45's excellent compilation post of links to each resort's calendar. Any "Plus" or "Holiday" weeks that you find are fixed weeks; a select few of the limited fixed weeks are also fixed units but there's no single source for those. You could ask here on TUG for owners to let you know if/when you need that info.
 
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m61376 said:
oops- of course you're right- :doh:
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M, if you want to cook a turkey and all the fixings on the third Thursday, just let us know what time and we'll all be happy to come celebrate with you. I'll bring an apple pie. :D
 
swaits said:
Ok, I looked at the next 40 years to see where US Holidays fall, and came up with this list:

  • Martin Luther King, Jr. Day - Weeks 3 & 4
  • Presidents' Day - Weeks 7 & 8
  • Spring Break - Weeks 13 & 14
  • Memorial Day - Week 22
  • Independence Day - Week 27
  • Labor Day - Week 36
  • Columbus Day - Weeks 41 & 42
  • Veterans Day - Weeks 45 & 46
  • Thanksgiving - Weeks 47 & 48
  • Christmas Day - Week 51
  • New Year's Day - Week 52

This was done in code and doesn't factor in "timeshare weeks". In other words, it just looks at the actual calendar week of each holiday, not the Fri-Fri/Sat-Sat/Sun-Sun weeks. In the cases where the holiday fell evenly across two weeks I've included both week numbers. In the rest of the cases, I just included the most common week number for each holiday.

I welcome any and all feedback on this. Have I made some mistakes? Or false assumptions? Can we eliminate some of the "double weeks" from this list? Is this useful?

Edited: added Spring Break and adjusted Christmas/New Year to be 51/52 instead of 52/1
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I'm not familiar with Marriott week break downs but Easter changes from year to year and is not just 2 specific weeks. I see now you don't have Easter on your list.

Spring break can vary depending on specific school calendars.

On the TUG planning calendar, independence day falls on week 26 this year.

Also in many years a Sun check in is a different week than the Sat just before any Sunday.

Like I said I don't know if the Marriott calendar is different or not but I just put a calendar in front of me when searching and a print out of the TUG and RCI week calendars.
 
swaits said:
Ok, I looked at the next 40 years to see where US Holidays fall, and came up with this list:

  • Martin Luther King, Jr. Day - Weeks 3 & 4
  • Presidents' Day - Weeks 7 & 8
  • Spring Break - Weeks 13 & 14
  • Memorial Day - Week 22
  • Independence Day - Week 27
  • Labor Day - Week 36
  • Columbus Day - Weeks 41 & 42
  • Veterans Day - Weeks 45 & 46
  • Thanksgiving - Weeks 47 & 48
  • Christmas Day - Week 51
  • New Year's Day - Week 52

This was done in code and doesn't factor in "timeshare weeks". In other words, it just looks at the actual calendar week of each holiday, not the Fri-Fri/Sat-Sat/Sun-Sun weeks. In the cases where the holiday fell evenly across two weeks I've included both week numbers. In the rest of the cases, I just included the most common week number for each holiday.

I welcome any and all feedback on this. Have I made some mistakes? Or false assumptions? Can we eliminate some of the "double weeks" from this list? Is this useful?

Edited: added Spring Break and adjusted Christmas/New Year to be 51/52 instead of 52/1
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Unfortunately (and this is not a criticism of what you were attempting to do), I don't think the list is very useful. There are just too many exceptions when holidays fall in different weeks. Also, spring break can be one of several weeks, depending on the local school calendars. And some of those calendars vary from year to year. Easter varies by several weeks from year to year.
 
csxjohn said:
On the TUG planning calendar, independence day falls on week 26 this year.
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Indeed, thanks for the info.

Over the next 40 years, July 4th falls in week 26 four times. The other thirty-six times it's in week 27. :)

Anyway, after creating this list and browsing resales, I found I was able to much more easily and quickly relate Fixed Week resales to specific holidays.

--Steve
 
An easy way to do this is to use the WEEKNUM function in excel. Very simple to enter the dates in a row with the formula next to it. For example:

7/4/2012 27
7/4/2013 27
7/4/2014 27
7/4/2015 27
7/4/2016 28
7/4/2017 27
7/4/2018 27
7/4/2019 27
7/4/2020 27
7/4/2021 28

I am not sure if it effects timeshares but the US standard is based on the first week containing Jan 1. The European standard is the first week that contains 4 or more days in the new year. The Excel formula can be used with either method:

=WEEKNUM(A1,1) - This is the US standard
OR
=WEEKNUM(A1,2) - Alternate standard
 
swaits said:
Indeed, thanks for the info.

Over the next 40 years, July 4th falls in week 26 four times. The other thirty-six times it's in week 27. :)

Anyway, after creating this list and browsing resales, I found I was able to much more easily and quickly relate Fixed Week resales to specific holidays.

--Steve
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Jan 1 was on a Sunday this year. July 4 fell on a Wed right in the middle of week 27. I think you are confusing the timeshare check in with the actual week number. The OP stated he was after the actual week number and not the timeshare use week.
 
Saintsfanfl said:
Jan 1 was on a Sunday this year. July 4 fell on a Wed right in the middle of week 27. I think you are confusing the timeshare check in with the actual week number. The OP stated he was after the actual week number and not the timeshare use week.
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Perhaps I've got a bug. I did my stuff in a bit of ruby code.

Thanks for pointing out the useful Excel function Saintsfanfl.

Maybe I'll spend a bit more time on this and actually get my code to perfectly match "Marriott weeks" instead of calendar weeks.

--Steve
 
swaits said:
Perhaps I've got a bug. I did my stuff in a bit of ruby code.

Thanks for pointing out the useful Excel function Saintsfanfl.

Maybe I'll spend a bit more time on this and actually get my code to perfectly match "Marriott weeks" instead of calendar weeks.

--Steve
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Just realized you are the OP. Doh! Yes I think it would be more relevant to match the practicality of the usage but that becomes even more varied. You have alot of overlap. For example at Ocean Pointe check ins are Thur thru Sun (with all 4 days counting as the same check in "week"). With a check in range you often times have two check in weeks hitting the same holiday. More often than not.
 
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SueDonJ said:
M, if you want to cook a turkey and all the fixings on the third Thursday, just let us know what time and we'll all be happy to come celebrate with you. I'll bring an apple pie. :D
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:rofl:just so you know- having been spoiled by my Mom, who is a fabulous baker, I am very discerning when it comes to apple pie :hysterical:

Can you believe it is only 6 weeks away?
 
One individual privately asked me to explain why my numbers don't add up to 100%. It's because they are the percentage of years that each specific week can be used during that holiday. And, occasionally multiple weeks can work for a holiday.

This is because on some years the Fri/Sat/Sun check-in dates won't be consecutive; they'll split apart. It just depends on the calendar.

For example. In 2017, Memorial Day is on May 29th. That means that both Week 21 and 22 have options to be Memorial Day weeks, depending on your checkin date.

Week 21
  • Fri-Fri: 2017-05-26 - 2017-06-02 * Memorial Day
  • Sat-Sat: 2017-05-27 - 2017-06-03 * Memorial Day
  • Sun-Sun: 2017-05-21 - 2017-05-28

Week 22
  • Fri-Fri: 2017-06-02 - 2017-06-09
  • Sat-Sat: 2017-06-03 - 2017-06-10
  • Sun-Sun: 2017-05-28 - 2017-06-04 * Memorial Day

Right now my code does count the week for a holiday even if you check-out on the specific holiday. I may update that so that it only counts weeks which at least include a stay the night of the holiday. I could tweak it further. But for now, it's a start.

Edit: yah, I updated it to exclude "check out on the holiday" weeks from the counts.. :)
 
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