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[paxsarah]

So I won't be able to log into Roberts account and he won't be able to log into mine. That's good. But how is that any different than it's always been

Or maybe he's afraid that if I own the points my wife won't be able to stay in the same condo

"Thumbs up"

That's not actually how I read it. More like, say I own four contracts as the sole owner. I buy a fifth contract with me and my spouse as co-owners, and that adds him to my account as a co-owner. Today, we can log onto the same account, make a reservation up to the full value of the point available with either one of us as the owner occupying the unit, no guest certificate needed. How I read Avislo's concern was that if the new system forces my spouse and I to each have our own separate login credentials, and I can make a reservation up to the full value of the points on the account because I'm on all the contracts, but my spouse can only make a reservation up to the value of the single contract he's deeded as a co-owner on. By extension, perhaps if I made a reservation using points from contracts my spouse wasn't a co-owner on, I'd have to use a GC to add him to the reservation.

That's how I read it. I could be wrong, but if I'm right, it would have been a valid concern. Poorly articulated, and I don't know how speculative, but if they're planning to track down to the contract level it's something Wyndham could theoretically be capable of doing in the new system.

 

[wjappraise]

I have never made any attempts to log on to your or anyone else's accounts.

Where are you "thumbs up man"? Gotham needs you!


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[BellaWyn]

That's not actually how I read it. More like, say I own four contracts as the sole owner. I buy a fifth contract with me and my spouse as co-owners, and that adds him to my account as a co-owner. Today, we can log onto the same account, make a reservation up to the full value of the point available with either one of us as the owner occupying the unit, no guest certificate needed. How I read Avislo's concern was that if the new system forces my spouse and I to each have our own separate login credentials, and I can make a reservation up to the full value of the points on the account because I'm on all the contracts, but my spouse can only make a reservation up to the value of the single contract he's deeded as a co-owner on. By extension, perhaps if I made a reservation using points from contracts my spouse wasn't a co-owner on, I'd have to use a GC to add him to the reservation.

That's how I read it. I could be wrong, but if I'm right, it would have been a valid concern. Poorly articulated, and I don't know how speculative, but if they're planning to track down to the contract level it's something Wyndham could theoretically be capable of doing in the new system.

Pax, that's how I translated the concern also. There are a lot of owners that would be impacted with this kind of limitation in the new system. Not sure I want to jump on the freak out train about it however, at this juncture, since it has yet to ever be experienced.

WJ.... too much. Legit question even though poorly articulated.

 

[Avislo]

Pax, that's how I translated the concern also. There are a lot of owners that would be impacted with this kind of limitation in the new system. Not sure I want to jump on the freak out train about it however, at this juncture, since it has yet to ever be experienced.

WJ.... too much. Legit question even though poorly articulated.

Attempted to enforce on me a while ago under the old system. Like I said I dealt with it at the time.

 

[dagger1]

Just found out that the purpose of the different user profiles on a account has to do with giving Wyndham the ability to monitor specific users by name.

Attempted to enforce on me a while ago under the old system. Like I said I dealt with it at the time.

 

[ecwinch]

Glad we cleared that up - we were concerned but this thread has calmed my fears about any such attempts.

Now you only need to be concerned about him calling the Title dept to get your login information.

 

[Braindead]

Pax, that's how I translated the concern also. There are a lot of owners that would be impacted with this kind of limitation in the new system. Not sure I want to jump on the freak out train about it however, at this juncture, since it has yet to ever be experienced.

Legit question even though poorly articulated.

Highly unlikely that Wyndham is heading down that road. They are merging my accounts with only 2 out of 6 owners on all contracts. If that's the new rules they would most likely stop and start going the opposite direction and start splitting accounts.

Could you imagine sales reaction! We can't buy because everyone we need aren't here.

More likely trying track who's making or cancelled reservations. Trying to track a common device accessing numerous accounts. Try to stop the next points managers - mega renter fiasco.

Seems Wyndham is willing to tolerate renting to a certain level. Then every few years try to clear house on the big boys.

 

[BellaWyn]

Highly unlikely that Wyndham is heading down that road. They are merging my accounts with only 2 out of 6 owners on all contracts. If that's the new rules they would most likely stop and start going the opposite direction and start splitting accounts.

Could you imagine sales reaction! We can't buy because everyone we need aren't here.

More likely trying track who's making or cancelled reservations. Trying to track a common device accessing numerous accounts. Try to stop the next points managers - mega renter fiasco.

Seems Wyndham is willing to tolerate renting to a certain level. Then every few years try to clear house on the big boys.

Would for sure have an impact on sales but then there are ways sales would find to navigate around the limitation. Still do not see it happening.

Tracking the small renter to who is making and canceling dates from a single IP may be doable but there are too many technology work-arounds these days to mask an IP address from a single location. That tracking method would have little impact on the big players in the game.

Thus far, per Ron's previous reflection, the points managers seem to be less of a target but I have no real knowledge of the validity of that statement. The type of expert consultation he is doing now alludes to him being a type of 3rd party point manager. Presume he would not jump into that if it put him (or his client) at risk again with Wyn.

Big boys.....???? why is that Gender specific again? Just a vernacular thing?

Dagger1... do I need a thumbs up here?

 

[Avislo]

Highly unlikely that Wyndham is heading down that road. They are merging my accounts with only 2 out of 6 owners on all contracts. If that's the new rules they would most likely stop and start going the opposite direction and start splitting accounts.

Could you imagine sales reaction! We can't buy because everyone we need aren't here.

More likely trying track who's making or cancelled reservations. Trying to track a common device accessing numerous accounts. Try to stop the next points managers - mega renter fiasco.

Seems Wyndham is willing to tolerate renting to a certain level. Then every few years try to clear house on the big boys.

As a matter of fact, two of the owners experienced this response on more than one occasion.

 

[BellaWyn]

Attempted to enforce on me a while ago under the old system. Like I said I dealt with it at the time.

RL.... statement is too vague. No one has any idea WTH you are getting at with this kiddo. It's a giant shrug IMO.

 

[Avislo]

RL.... statement is too vague. No one has any idea WTH you are getting at with this kiddo. It's a giant shrug IMO.

Ok. Since that particular issue was resolved at the time for my account, think I will pass on the details, the summery by paxsarah is on target.

 

[dagger1]

[QUOTE="BellaWyn..

Big boys.....???? why is that Gender specific again? Just a vernacular thing?

Dagger1... do I need a thumbs up here? [/QUOTE

Sorry BellaWyn, just "Thumbs Up" guy's brother's reaction to indecipherable posts... Don't have a pic of his sister....

 

[BellaWyn]

[QUOTE="BellaWyn..

Big boys.....???? why is that Gender specific again? Just a vernacular thing?

Dagger1... do I need a thumbs up here?

Sorry BellaWyn, just "Thumbs Up" guy's brother's reaction to indecipherable posts... Don't have a pic of his sister....

Ha! And The Universe smiles kindly on my gender once again. Important to recognize even small blessings when they happen.

But you're gonna put energy into trying to find an alternative option..... because you can......

 

[whitewater]

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When you have established a user profile, there are some word pictures towards the bottom of the page that go from one to the other. If you want to make it stop on a specific message just click over the wanted words to read ect.

-One of the blurbs state:
-Get Registered
-Be one of the 1st to Register
-Set up your owner Profile
-Confirm your Ownership Details in your dashboard and explore

A feedback button is provided. This is where Wyndham Corporate advises to put the information that is wrong or where you are having problems.

The regular site is advising people to register for the site also.

If you disregard their recommendations on checking your owner details information prior to the official roll-out, shame. They tried.

If other threads on TUG are checked, I believe it has been well established that Wyndham computer data is not necessarily correct and that not so nice things can happen as a result, up to and including account suspensions while the account is reviewed.

A thought occurs to me that a great Wyndham defense if things like this continue is that Wyndham advised people to check their data, gave a means to identify problems, and they did not.

ok from the FAQ page on the "new" beta site: https://www.preview.myclubwyndham.com/mycw/preview-faq.page

Stop Fear Mongering....

and I quote:
What changes will I see when I log on to the existing myclubwyndham.com?

There will be no significant changes to the existing myclubwyndham.com. You will continue to use the same great resources you have become accustomed to at myclubwyndham.com, where you can manage your account, make reservations and access Club news and information. Once all functionality is complete on the preview.myclubwyndham.com website, it will take the myclubwyndham.com URL.

 

[Braindead]

Big boys ? Just an old saying from an old school guy. Thought of your response when I hit the PR button

I'm not a political correctness type of person

 

[whitewater]

ok now to a specific question regarding the "new" beta site:

do all your contracts show up when you log into the site? Only 1 or my 2 contracts shows up both are CWA. I am legitimately interested.

 

[Avislo]

ok now to a specific question regarding the "new" beta site:

do all your contracts show up when you log into the site? Only 1 or my 2 contracts shows up both are CWA. I am legitimately interested.

Fair enough. No, not under the Ownership Tab, yes under the financial tab. I keep getting different numbers of contracts each time I click on it. I have found I can get the largest number of contracts showing on any given try by clicking the ownership tab about 10 times. Only a couple of times have all of them been present.

Under the Ownership Tab getting the right owners/agents attributed to the right person is hopeless.

 

[Braindead]

ok now to a specific question regarding the "new" beta site:

do all your contracts show up when you log into the site? Only 1 or my 2 contracts shows up both are CWA. I am legitimately interested.

It's not consistent. Sometimes if you go to a different part and come back then they will all show.

 

[whitewater]

Website is still "under development"

both showed up, 3 minutes later, none, then 1 again. This has a long way to go.

@Avislo what do you mean by? "Under the Ownership Tab getting the right owners/agents attributed to the right person is hopeless." I am not getting it.....

 

[whitewater]

It's not consistent. Sometimes if you go to a different part and come back then they will all show.

thanks thats what I figured. a long way to go. On the bright side when my CWA does show up it says I have reciprocal at "fairfield glade" no idea whats that about with CWA...

 

[BellaWyn]

ok now to a specific question regarding the "new" beta site:

do all your contracts show up when you log into the site? Only 1 or my 2 contracts shows up both are CWA. I am legitimately interested.

Maybe not "all functionality" has yet been completed on the new site?

 

[Avislo]

Website is still "under development"

both showed up, 3 minutes later, none, then 1 again. This has a long way to go.

@Avislo what do you mean by? "Under the Ownership Tab getting the right owners/agents attributed to the right person is hopeless." I am not getting it.....

Under the ownership tab their is a way to get to other information per contract.

Go to the site:

- Click on my ownership
- Click on Ownership Details
- Contracts show up
- For those entries that have type of contract, click on that.
- For ones that do not, click on the words "contract number"
- Use whatever method works on your computer to get a copy of the data.

For the CWA contract that you mentioned for RARP, that means, for whatever reason, what you believe is a pure CWA contract is showing you with a specific RARP right at the resort you mentioned.

My CWA contract shows CWA as home resort.

 

[Braindead]

Please no. It's OK

Where oh where did my Avislo post go ??

 

[whitewater]

I just found the ignore feature - it completely changes the thread. love it!

 

[ronparise]

Pax, that's how I translated the concern also. There are a lot of owners that would be impacted with this kind of limitation in the new system. Not sure I want to jump on the freak out train about it however, at this juncture, since it has yet to ever be experienced.

WJ.... too much. Legit question even though poorly articulated.

That's not actually how I read it. More like, say I own four contracts as the sole owner. I buy a fifth contract with me and my spouse as co-owners, and that adds him to my account as a co-owner. Today, we can log onto the same account, make a reservation up to the full value of the point available with either one of us as the owner occupying the unit, no guest certificate needed. How I read Avislo's concern was that if the new system forces my spouse and I to each have our own separate login credentials, and I can make a reservation up to the full value of the points on the account because I'm on all the contracts, but my spouse can only make a reservation up to the value of the single contract he's deeded as a co-owner on. By extension, perhaps if I made a reservation using points from contracts my spouse wasn't a co-owner on, I'd have to use a GC to add him to the reservation.

That's how I read it. I could be wrong, but if I'm right, it would have been a valid concern. Poorly articulated, and I don't know how speculative, but if they're planning to track down to the contract level it's something Wyndham could theoretically be capable of doing in the new system.

They could do it with the current system too by requiring a separate account for each ownership. So if I have a deed in just my name and another with me and my wife and and another with my wife and her son, that would require 3 accounts. It would also allow 30 reservations at avenue plaza and another 30 at Labelle Maison for Mardi Gras

Come on guys they aren't gonna give anyone that opportunity. Not after they just got rid of me

Sure anything is possible but the reason they are gonna follow everything down to the contract level is likely so they limit VIP discounts to the contracts bought direct