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Sticky - Hilton / HGVC advice article links

Discussion in 'Hilton Grand Vacations Club / HGVC' started by TUGBrian, Nov 20, 2007.

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  1. TUGBrian

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    Edited Aug 2009
    Info for HGVC & Grand Pacific Palisades owners:
    ADDED AUG 2009:
    At this time, If you purchase a TS from the developer at the Grand Pacific Marbrisa resort, you'll become a affiliate member of HGVC. Your TS will generate HGVC points which you can use at the HGVC resorts. It appears that the membership in HGVC doesn't transfer to resale buyers.

    ALSO Below are two posts with great info about HGVC.

    The first about HGVC & Hilton Honors

    The second with lots of links to HGVC info and thread with great info.
     
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  3. alwysonvac

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    We probably should have a Hilton HHonors STICKY

    HGVC AND HILTON HONORS
    Hilton Grand Vacations Club (HGVC) and Hilton HHonors are two separate programs.

    You have two options to use HGVC points with HHonors.

    (1) Transfer your points from one program to another (HGVC points to HHonor points)
    PROs: You get 25 HHonor points for each HGVC point.
    CONS: You cannot transfer/convert HGVC points to HHonor points in the current year. You must plan ahead and request conversion before Dec 31 of the current year, for the following year's allocation of HGVC points. HGVC points are not deposited into your HHonors account until the first week of January of the following year.
    NOTE: Converted HHonors points may not be converted back to HGVC points
    See pages 142-143 of the 2009 Club Member Guide for more details - http://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/mg/

    (2) Make Hotel Reservations using HGVC points
    PROs: You can use a combination of HHonor points and HGVC Club Points (from the current year and/or borrow from next year) to make your hotel reservation
    CONs: You get 20 HHonor points for each HGVC point (less points for not planning in advance)
    NOTE: HGVC points can not be returned to your HGVC account if you cancel your hotel reservations. They will be refunded as HHonors points
    See pages 18-19 of the 2009 Club Member Guide for HGVC point requirement - http://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/mg/


    THE HILTON HHONORS PROGRAM:
    Hilton HHonors determines point requirement for each of their hotels - http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/rewards/hotels.do

    As HGVC Members, we are automatically given Silver VIP HHonor status. This qualifies us for the exclusive VIP–Only hotel rewards which allows stays of 6 to 14 nights at reduced hotel reward levels. The HHonors VIP-Only hotel award provides the best hotel exchange value. (i.e. 6 night category 6 hotel for 175,000 HHonor points). There's also an exclusive 4-night category 5 and 6 hotel award available only for American Express Hilton card members which saves 15,000 HHonors points.

    Here's the link to the Standard Hotel Rewards - http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/rewards/freenight.do
    Here's the link to the VIP Hotel Rewards - http://hhonors.hilton.com/en/hhonors/rewards/hrr/index.jhtml
    Here's the link to Hotels by Reward Category - http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/rewards/categories.do
    Here's the link to Hilton HHonors Membership Levels - http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/about/memlevels.do
    Here's the link to the American Express Hilton Card (see "Redeem for Less" under card features) - https://www217.americanexpress.com/cards/home.do?pmccode=117#CARDS/117/1/0/5
    Hilton HHonors Signature Visa (not AMEX) http://hhonorscard.com/us/cards/cardserv/hhilton/home.jsp
    link to all of the HHonors related credit cards - http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/about/creditcards.do

    ADDITIONAL ITEMS:
    (1) You can purchase up to 40,000 HHonors points per calendar year
    (2) The VIP only awards are also available for the Waldorf Astoria Collection Hotels -http://hhonors1.hilton.com/ts/en_US/hh/media/pdf/VIPOnlyRewardsChart2009.pdf
    NOTE: According to the FlyerTalk boards, the Grand Wailea runs a special reward code for four night and five night stays based on availability. If you're interested, ask about the availability of the four-night Reward Code GW4N for 200,000 HHonor points or the five-night Reward Code GW5N for 250,000 HHonor points.

    (3) Plan any hotel reward trips sooner rather than later.
    A great hotel exchange deal today may not be a great deal tomorrow due to the following
    (a) Maintenance Fees will increase over time decreasing the exchange value
    (b) HHONOR reward point requirement will increase over time which will eventually impact the number of hotel reward nights
    (c) Per the HGVC Member Guide, the HGVC to HHonors conversion rate is subject to change without notice and the benefits available through these programs are subject to change, suspension or discontinuation at any time without prior notice.

    It's better to take advantage of the hotel reward stays using HGVC convert points now rather than later.
    For HHonors discussions visit the Hilton HHonors Flyertalk board - http://flyertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=417

    (4) As HGVC Members, we are automatically given Silver VIP HHonor status. There are a number of ways to upgrade to Gold VIP HHonors status.
    Gold HHonors benefits can include space-available room upgrade, complimentary breakfast, and much more. Here's an overview of the Gold VIP HHonors Benefits - http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/about/gold.do

    You can gain Gold VIP HHonors status by
    (a) Being a HGVC Elite Member - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=757487&postcount=3
    (b) Earning the number of qualifying Hilton Hotel stays, nights or base points - http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/about/gold.do
    (c) Spending over $20,000 on your AMEX HHonors Credit Card - http://www201.americanexpress.com/getthecard/learn-about/Hilton-HHonors (see page 8)
    (d) Participating in a promotion - for example the AMEX HHonors Surpass Credit Card promotion gives Gold VIP status for the 1st year http://www201.americanexpress.com/getthecard/learn-about/Hilton-HHonors-Surpass
    NOTE: For options #b and #c, members must re-qualify for VIP status each year.


    OTHER RECENT THREADS
    Hotel Award Accommodations - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90256
    Hilton AMEX Card Benefits - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90868
    Homewood Suites - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91184
     
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  4. alwysonvac

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    Maybe a HGVC FAQ STICKY with links to other threads

    Something like the following (similar to the other forums)? Just a suggestion

    HGVC WEBSITE
    http://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/

    HGVC CLUB MEMBERS GUIDE
    http://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/mg/

    RESALE VS DEVELOPER
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91429
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77366
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74628
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89564
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76953

    ELITE STATUS
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88263
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77964
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93987

    RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL (ROFR)
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92671
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87314

    MAINTENANCE FEES (MF)
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83985
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57419
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88815

    RECOMMENDED RESALE AGENTS
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88428

    HILTON HHONOR POINTS
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92865

    RCI
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89657
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86105
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80394
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88303
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37771

    CRUISE EXCHANGES
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90381

    AFFILIATES
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=474720&postcount=4
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73262
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=566948&postcount=16
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82656


    New sections:

    HGVC 101 VIDEO TUTORIALS
    http://tutorial.hiltongrandvacations.com/#/Welcome/

    RESERVATIONS & TIPS
    Hilton points and using them to the max -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97529
    Open Season -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97378
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98670
    Changeable Reservations -
    http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81779
    Making reservation for longer than a week at your home resort -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94937

    New resorts being built or added -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99611

    How many points to buy -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94089

    Club Season Availability for week 51 and 52 -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94978

    Open Season Availability for June/July -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99971

    HGVC RESORT INFO
    HGVC South Beach info -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82819
    Hilton Hawaiian Village info -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95233
    HHV Lagoon Tower vs. Grand Waikikian -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99343
    Which Hawaii resort -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85126
    Which Big Island resort -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91821
    Which Vegas resort -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88907
    Orlando SeaWorld vs International Drive -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83709
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77458
    Orlando Parc Soleil -
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98735 &
    http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98775

    HGVC RESORT REVIEWS & PHOTOS
    TUG reviews
    Trip Advisor reviews
    TS4Ms Reviews
    Expedia Reviews
     
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    Sandy VDH TUG Review Crew: Expert TUG Member

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    I own both Hilton and Wyndham.

    I love Hilton for Hawaii and Hard to get RCI trades
    I love Wyndham for the locations, RCI upgrades, and the discounts at 60 days.

    There are pros and cons with both.

    HILTON
    PROs:
    High quality resorts, great furnishings, good consistency
    Well insured, disasters in FL have had no or very little Special Assessments
    Great Management
    Great Customer Service, owner focused
    High trade priority in RCI
    Access to RCI Weeks and Points
    Access to RCI Weeks and Points is available online.
    Cash option during open season
    Good availability during open season (usually)
    Complimentary upgrades (some Elite levels)
    Fees reseasonable
    Online booking $49 but completely changeable over and over at no extra fee
    Fee Guest Certificates (GC)
    Most resorts are on a fixed scale of points

    CONs:
    Too concentrated in Vegas, Orlando and Hawaii
    Limited number of resorts available (but getting a little better)
    Higher MFs
    No Free upgrade in RCI (See Wyndham for comparison)
    No discounted in points ever
    Higher buy in costs, Platinum (~$1.5 point)
    NO real RCI account is provided, but is online so not as big of deal.
    New trend is that 2 of the last 3 resorts have 50% more points requirements


    WYNDHAM
    PROs:
    Very very flexible, even more so than Hilton
    Lots and Lots of locations (77 + 44 Affiliates)
    Newer resorts have been opening at a good pace
    Have some Urban resorts (Washington DC, San Antonio, San Francisco, San Diego, Atlantic City, Honolulu)
    Have some Mega Resorts (Bonnet Creek FL, Grand Desert NV, Ocean Blvd SC)
    Lots at availability both planning ahead and last minute
    Some very nice, deluxe accommodations
    Presidential Level units are equal to Hilton level of units
    Discounts on points for units with 60 days of check in
    Complimentary upgrades at Wyndham(VIP levels)
    Upgrade permitted on RCI (deposited a studio get a 2 BR)
    Very cheap to buy points, 1/2 - 1 CENT per point, may be less
    MF are reasonable
    Receive a free RCI weeks account, other non Wyndham TS can use it too
    Online booking available, both in Wyndham and in RCI Weeks.
    If you have the Partner Plus option on your account, you have access to RCI Points
    Booking Wyndham online to get discounts is also available.
    Reservation Transactions get certain # free than $30 online, $59 over phone
    Lots of sizes of units, vary from Studio to 4 BR Presidential units

    CONs:
    Hate the Sales/Corporate Staff
    They are not overly owner friendly
    Keep changing rules, by taking away options that were once available
    They are too reliant on Special Assessments
    Must call to get VIP complimentary upgrade (it doesn't happen automatically)
    Access to RCI Weeks only (Access to RCI points only if you have paid for PlusPartner program)
    If you have the Partner Plus option, you have access to RCI Points inventory, BUT NO RCI points online option is available, you must book it over the phone.
    Allotted # of free GC, but when exceeded, they are $129 phone or $99 online
    No standard points requirement (2 BR Deluxe, varies in Prime season from 154K to 275K, views and presidentials are up from that, highest points for a single unit in system is 800K for Presidential 4 BR Oceanfront Upper level unit at Ocean Bvld, SC midsummer)


    Split Decisions:
    Cancelation policy has pros and cons for both
    Wyndham's is better if 15 days out then Hilton's becomes better 14 days or less.

    Hilton is a scale,
    31 or > days - lose fee only, all points returned
    30 - 15 days - lose fee + lose 25% of your points
    14 to 6 days - lose fee + lose 50% of your points
    5 or < days - lose everything (fee + points)

    Wyndham is also a scale, but only 2 choices
    15 or > days - lose fee only, all points returned
    14 or < days - lose everything (fee + points)
     
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    Edited AUG 2009:
    Info for HGVC & Club Intrawest:

    HGVC owners can use their points to make reservations at several of the Club Intrawest resorts.
    BUT unlike HGVC affiliates, HGVC & Club Intrawest are not affiliated. They just share some resort weeks with each other.
     
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