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Kauai Beach Villas - Any changes so far?

Discussion in 'US - Hawaii Timesharing' started by ecwinch, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. cdn_traveler

    cdn_traveler TUG Member

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    Thanks for the update. I'm really, really hoping that they will be gone by March!
     
  2. linsj

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    Not likely. A lot of the units are in Wyndham points, and Wyndham owns the clubhouse, so Grand Pacific has to pay rent for the use of it. And Wyndham wants people to go to the timeshare sales presentation.
     
  3. ecwinch

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    How does Wyndham own the clubhouse?
     
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    You mean the office? I wouldn't call that a clubhouse.
     
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    Here's a wrinkle since Grand Pacific took over management at Kauai Beach Villas:

    Last November I sold my week at KBV to a new owner. We used LTT for the transfer, everything went through as expected, and the new deed was recorded December 21, 2016. GPR was informed of the new owner, and they've got their names in place on things, or so I thought: I was just informed today that Wyndham denies ever getting the transfer paperwork, (claiming it takes up to three months to transfer an ownership), and Grand Pacific is demanding the entire process be done over again - including paying their $595 transfer fee. :eek:

    Needless to say, I'll be making some phone calls on Monday...

    Dave
     
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    Problem is resolved. I spoke to GPR's title department, and they agreed Wyndham dropped the ball on the transfer. I provided them a copy of the transfer docs, and they switched things to the new owner's names. So we're good to go. :thumbup:

    Dave
     
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    Glad to hear this, Dave.
     
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    It was a bit of a surprise, I must say, to get an email all these months later from LTT saying, "Um, Houston, we have a problem..." I was told by the new owner that they were all set back in January. I knew the new deed was recorded, but had no idea things hadn't transferred at the resort level. So to GPR's credit, they did step up and make the switch to the new owners within a couple of minutes, once I showed them the paperwork. GPR says Wyndham has done this to them on a number of transfers at KBV. They said it was like they just pulled the plug, and stopped doing things a fair ways before the transfer of management happened. I can't say I'm all that surprised.

    I'm glad it's resolved, and happy the new owners can schedule their week.

    Dave
     
  9. ecwinch

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    I am reminded of the joke about the new manager who is hired and in his office desk drawer finds three envelopes marked "Open in case of Trouble".

    Later that week he hits a problem he can't solve and opens the first envelope. It reads "Tell them you just got here, but you are on the case and will work hard to get to it solved".

    Later that month, the problem still exists, so he opens the 2nd envelope. it reads "Tell them your predecessor was the problem, but it has your full attention and will resolved as soon as possible."

    A month later the problem still exists, so he opens the 3rd envelope. It reads "Prepare three envelopes...."

    I write this in the context of the email I just received from a KBV BoD member asking for my vote. Where she writes that the new mgt co was selected (in part) on the basis of offering to setup a resale program using the HOA's inventory of unsold weeks, but instead has bought them and dumped the weeks into their system. Certainly adhering to the letter of their obligation, but perhaps not the spirit of what the BoD expected. Anyone have any additional insight on this?
     
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    Im not sure this is the right place for this but it seems relevant to the discussion

    I woke up to this email this morning. If I read this right, Wyndham already controls 3 of the 5 board seats and has enough votes to add one or two more this year. Wont they just vote themselves back in as manager as soon as they can? My point is...isnt this email too little, too late?

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    I am an owner at Kauai Beach Villas. I serve on the Board of Directors. I am up for election. I would like you to cast a vote for me, Trish Harrington, when you receive your ballot.


    We are in a critical place at KBV. Dave Walters was the developer and President for many years. Before his passing, he hired a new company to manage our resort-Wyndham Vacation Ownership. They were hired to manage us as well as Ka Eo Kai, The Shearwater, The Makai Club, and Bali Hai Villas. BHV included the purchase of almost half of the units there. From my first visit to KBV after Wyndham took over I could see problems. Things were not the same. Corners were being cut, the units were not what I considered up to par, and the wonderful Aloha spirit was greatly diminished.


    As a Board member I tried, along with the other board members (including Karen Blackford, Ross Tilton and Tom Mischley), to effect change, to work with Wyndham to do what we felt was needed. Some things were implemented, most were not. We worked with them for 7 years before researching and hiring a new management company. Through this time, they offered to “buy” our foreclosures and resell them. This was a great solution until we realized they were not reselling them, but keeping them for their own inventory, thus acquiring enough votes to control the election to the board. Last May, after we had told them we were not renewing their management agreement with KBV, they nominated 3 Wyndham employees to the board and had adequate votes to elect all three.


    I am one of the two remaining PAHIO board members. The other has chosen not to run this election. I appeal to you to vote for me, or name me as your Proxy vote in this May’s election. Do not let Wyndham take over more of our board positions.


    Sincerely,
     

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