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FYI this is where some of the Nanea one bedrooms are going

Discussion in 'Vistana Signature Experiences (formerly Starwood)' started by trexmdr, Jul 16, 2017.

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    Found this on Craigs list. This may be why you can't book a one bedroom. Owners booking and renting out.

    Enjoy Thanksgiving Week in Maui in a 1 bedroom premium villa, sleeps 4. The Westin Nanea Ocean Villas is the newest property in Maui - opening June 2017. The property and rooms are island contemporary.

    This 1 bedroom premium villa is available from November 18th to November 25th. Total cost is $2900 for the week.

    The villa has 1 bedroom and 1 bathroom. It is 840 square feet and sleeps up to 4 adults. It also includes a full kitchen, dining tables inside and outside, and washer and dryer in the villa. There are brand new barbecues down by the pool.

    This property is located on the North side of Ka'anapali, right on the beach! There are two other Westin villa properties and you have full use of facilities and restaurants - Dukes Restaurant is a 2 minute walk.

    There is a free hotel shuttle that will drop you off and pick up in Lahaina as well as all the other Westin properties like the Sheraton and Westin hotels.

    This one bedroom villa features a master bedroom with king size Westin heavenly bed with HDTV. The master bathroom has a Westin heavenly bath with large shower, bathtub and vanity. There is a pull-out sofa bed in the living room. There is an entertainment console in the living area with HDTV DVD player and Bose wave AM/FM radio.

    The villa has a fully equipped kitchen including a range with oven, microwave, full size refrigerator, dishwasher, coffee maker, toaster, blender and dinnerware. There is also a washer and dryer, private lanai with outdoor furniture. Telephone lines with voicemail and wireless high-speed Internet access.

    Other amenities include outdoor barbecue grill stations, fire pit, sand beach, island lagoon pool, island whirlpool spas, poolside cabanas, children splash pad, to plunge pools, a beach pool and waterslide, Westin workout fitness studio, sauna and steam room, concierge services, and covered parking.
     
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    And this what they are asking for the 2 bedrooms. Are they worth that much?

    $5500 / 2br - 1260ft2 - Vacation in Hawaii Westin Nanea Ocean Villas, Ka'anapali (Kaanapali Maui)
     
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    Owners have always rented their timeshares, but that doesn't impact availability, because whether the owner uses it or rents it, he is still going to reserve it.

    With only 14% one bedrooms at the resort, availability is always going to be an issue. Hopefully, it will ease up when phase II opens.

    They probably won't get $5,500, when you can rent an ocean front 2 bdm. at the original resort for around $4,500.

    And Craigslist is not the place to advertise a high dollar rental anyway...
     
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    True. I can rent something really cheap on Craig's List, but nothing rents for $200 or more per night. TUG ads work okay, and I have had some luck on Redweek. I cannot imagine a anyone paying $5,500 for a week in a new resort with immature landscaping.
     
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    I have to remember that point about availability impact. And good to know about craigs list. I just learn so much here.
    Thank you everyone!
     
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    I think owner rentals DO impact availability for the highest demand weeks, such as President's Day weekend and summer weeks.

    The few times I rented out WKORV, I tried to always book a February or summer week because that's when II told me the demand was the highest. However, when I personally used my week, I actively avoided those high demand weeks.
     
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    Hi Lisa - I agree, but there are so few 1 bedrooms at Nanea, it's like every week is President's week.
     
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    It does seem like the competition for those 1BR units is going to be fierce. If I understand it correctly, someone may have bought 148,100 HomeOptions (or whatever they are called at Nanea), but can spend them on the 1BR units, correct? So the 81K HomeOption owner is competing not only with other 81K HomeOption owners, but also everyone that has home resort advantage.

    If my understanding is correct, that's a tough combination and will make those 1BRs reserve quickly.

    Disney makes it work in their properties, but I wonder if it will be different at Nanea???

    We walked through it on our Maui trip last month, and it is a beautiful property. I hope we can stay there one year.

    Best,

    Greg
     
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    GregT -- you're absolutely correct. HomeOptions are HomeOptions and nobody really owns a 1-bedroom unit. In fact, this setup makes it even worse because the 2-bedroom "points" owners will be able to reserve 1-bedroom units several days prior to the 1-bedroom "points" owners, giving them early access to holiday weeks. This effectively shuts out 1-bedroom "points" owners from being able to use their weeks except in low season, and so they will probably be forced into StarOptions reservations most if not all of the time.
     
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    Gurrrr.
     
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    Why would the 2BD Points Owners be able to reserve several days prior to 1 BD Points Owners?
     
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    Because they own more home options, they can reserve early to get the date they want. For example, they may reserve 14 nights, including the week before a holiday week, and the holiday week.
     
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    I'll bet the sales people a Nanea never mention this little technicality. I had no idea until now and I would be pissed if I had bougt what I thought was a one bedroom. Welcome to the flex plan.
    RT
     
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    Nope, they didn't. And yep, I'm pissed.
     
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    One of the biggest downsides to owning any floating week in any exchange program is the uncertainty of being able to book the week you want. It's ironic that TS marketers often target families with young kids, because TS ownership actually works best for people with flexible schedules, or for those who are willing to pay to lock in aka fix a high season week.

    For float owners of high demand/expensive resorts, competition is so tough most weeks of the year that you'd be remiss not to have your plans laid out over a year in advance so that you can book at 12 months out. For folks who need to travel during the dozen weeks of the year that the kids are out of school, attempting to book WKORV could turn out to be a very discouraging and aggravating process. It's bad enough at place like Harborside, which is very popular in the summer, but at least those owners have the protection of different seasons. A gold week owner can never book ahead of a platinum week owner for a platinum week. At WKORV, they coded the entire year as platinum, so a float owner has the added struggle of competing with potentially 50 owners for each villa.

    That being said, since Nanea is still in the sales phase, owners should be able to make reservations fairly easily. So take advantage while you can! And realize that once the kids are out of the house, the world is your oyster! I LOVE traveling in shoulder season!
     
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    Bank your options and be able to lock in even earlier than "2BR" points owners in alternate years, book at lower cost AL travel days and extend your vacation between travel dates.
     
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    Banked Staroptions cannot be used until 8 months before check-in - so how would you lock in earlier than 2 br. points owners?
     
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    If you use banked SOs, you not only use the benefit of booking during home resort priority period (8-12 months out), but you also lose the view you paid for!
     
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    At Nanea - you don't buy a deeded view. I guess it's based on the number of Home Options you use to make the reservation.

    When you make a Staroption reservaton at Nanea, the view doesn't show on the screen - I'm not sure if it shows with Home Option reservations.
     
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    I thought Nanea was selling Ocean Front Home Options and Resort View Home Options. If you buy Resort View options, you can never use those to book Ocean Front, at least in the 12-8 month window. I also thought that Nanea has both Resort View and Ocean Front listed separately on the StarOptions chart? So you should be able to book a specific view with StarOptions, I wonder why they don't differentiate between the view types when making SO reservations online? Perhaps there are just no Ocean Front units available to book?
     

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