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FAQ of the Diamond Resorts

Discussion in 'Diamond Resorts International - DRI' started by Bill4728, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Bill4728

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    There are three kinds of ownerships at resorts managed by Diamond Resorts International (DRI)


    -Own a deeded week at a resort managed by Diamond. Resale owners at any of the Diamond resorts own only at that single resort and can’t use points to go to other Diamond resorts.

    -Be a “CLUB” member and use your points to reserve at any of the Diamond owned resorts and also the many Diamond affiliated resorts managed by Raintree and Vacation Internationale ( subject to significantly limited availability) . To be a club member, you must have purchased your ownership directly from the developer ( or obtained in a family transfer). Although it is possible to buy resale then "convert" the resale purchase by buying more pts/ weeks direct from Diamond and have all your resorts/points brought into the club.
    THE Club is just a membership to DRI own personal internal exchange program.


    -Own resale points in a DRI "COLLECTION" of resorts. ( sometime called "trust" points)
    Resale owners of the Collection points are allowed to use their Collection points to reserve time at any of the resorts in the resort collection of which they own. But not at any other Diamond resorts. ( to use the collection pts at other diamond resorts, you must have purchased the points directly from Diamond)

    There are NINE different resort collections which have a "Collection"

    Diamond manages nine collections: (as of May 2016)

    • the Diamond Resorts U.S. Collection
    • the Diamond Resorts Hawaii Collection
    • the Diamond Resorts California Collection
    • the Premiere Vacation Collection
    • the Monarch Grand Vacations
    • the Diamond Resorts European Collection
    • the Diamond Resorts Latin America Collection
    • the Diamond Resorts Mediterranean Collection
    • Club Intrawest (AKA Embarc by DRI)

    ** see the next post for which resorts are in which collection (some are in more than one)



    The following is the FAQ of the Diamond Resorts International (DRI)
    Q. How many points would be needed to make an average reservation in a 2 bedroom during "red" season?

    a. The average "Red Season" points for a reservation varies by resort. But using about 6500 points for a 2BR should work most times.

    Q. Does my ownership in DRI come with a membership in II?

    a. All members of the "club" come with a DRI paid for membership in II. BUT if you buy resale, you must join and pay for your exchange company membership.
     
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    Here is the current setup: 2013

    DRI U.S. Collection:
    • Bent Creek Golf Village, Gatlinburg, TN
    • Cypress Point Resort & Villas, Orlando, FL
    • Daytona Beach Regency, Daytona Beach, FL
    • Desert Paradise Resort, Las Vegas, NV
    • Dunes Village Resort, SC*
    • Flamingo Beach Club and Villas, St. Maarten
    • Grand Beach Resort, Orlando, FL
    • Greensprings Vacation Resort, Williamsburg, VA
    • Historic Powhatan Resort, Williamsburg, VA
    • Island Links Resort, Hilton Head, SC
    • Lake Tahoe Vacation Resort, Lake Tahoe, CA
    • London Bridge Resort, Lake Havasu, AZ
    • Marquis Villas, Palm Springs, CA
    • Mystic Dunes Resort and Golf, FL
    • Polo Towers Villas and Suites, Las Vegas, NV
    • Ridge on Sedona Golf Resort, Sedona, AZ
    • Ridge Pointe Tahoe, Lake Tahoe, CA
    • Royal Palm Beach Resort, St. Maarten
    • San Luis Bay Inn, Avila Beach, CA*
    • Sedona Springs Resort, Sedona, AZ
    • Sedona Summit, Sedona, AZ
    • Scottsdale Links Resort, Scottsdale, AZ
    • Scottsdale Villa Mirage, Scottsdale, AZ
    • Suites at Fall Creek, Branson, MO
    • Villas at Poco Diablo, Sedona, AZ
    • Villas de Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM
    • Villas of Sedona, Sedona, AZ
    • Tahoe Seasons Resort in South Lake, CA*
    • Palm Canyon Resort & Spa, CA*
    • Desert Isle of Palm Springs, CA*
    • Riviera Beach Resort & Spa, CA*
    • Riviera Shores Resort, CA*
    • Rivera Oaks Resort & Racquet Club, CA*

    In Aug 2015 DRI buys out Gold Key
    Gold Key resorts are being added to the US collection:

    • Beach Quarters Resort in Virginia Beach, Virginia
    • Turtle Cay Resort in Virginia Beach, Virginia
    • Boardwalk Resort and Villas in Virginia Beach, Virginia
    • Ocean Beach Club Resort in Virginia Beach, Virginia
    • Oceanaire Resort Hotel in Virginia Beach, Virginia
    • Beachwoods in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina



    DRI Hawaii Collection
    • Ka'anapali Beach Club, Maui, HI
    • Point at Poipu, Kauai, HI
    • Polo Towers Villas, Las Vegas, NV
    • Sedona Summit Resort, Sedona, AZ

    DRI California Collection
    • Lake Tahoe Vacation Resort, South Lake Tahoe, CA
    • San Luis Bay Inn, Avila Beach, CA
    • Tahoe Beach and Ski Club, South Lake Tahoe CA
    • Polo Towers Suites, Las Vegas Nevada
    • Sedona Summit, Sedona Arizona




    DRI European Collection

    Anderton Marina
    Woodford Bridge Country Club
    Broome Park Golf and Country Club
    Pine Lake Resort
    Thurnham Hall
    Cromer Country Club
    The Kenmore Club
    Wychnor Park Country Club
    there are others??



    Diamond also has some availability at the following Vacation Internationale Resorts:

    Fairway Villa-Oahu
    Royal Kuhio-Oahu
    Hololani-Maui
    Valley Isle-Maui
    Papakea-Maui
    Kihei Kai Nani-Maui
    Kapaa Shores-Kauai
    Pono Kai-Kauai
    Sea Village-Hawaii
    Sea Mountain-Hawaii

    Oasis-Palm Springs CA
    Marina Inn-Oceanside CA
    Kingsbury-S. Lake Tahoe (Stateline NV)
    Elkhorn-Sun Valley ID
    Village at Steamboat-Steamboat Springs CO
    The Pines-Sunriver OR
    Embarcadero-Newport OR
    Point Brown-Ocean Shores WA
    Clock Tower-Whistler, BC

    Vallarta Torre-Puerto Vallarta
    Torres Mazatlan-Mazatlan


    Diamond also has some availability at the following RainTree Vacation Club Resorts:


    Whiski Jack Resorts (17 resort locations) Whistler BC
    The Sandcastle at Birch Bay WA
    Franz Klammer Lodge Telluride CO
    Teton Club Jackson Hole WY
    Park Plaza Park City UT
    The Miners Club Park City UT
    Cimarron Golf Resort Palm Springs CA
    Kona Reef Hawaii

    Grand Regina Los Cabos
    Club Regina Los Cabos
    Club Regina Puerto Vallarta
    Club Regina Cancun
    Casa San Felipe Hostal Oaxaca
    Hostal Las Cúpulas Oaxaca
    Villa Vera Puerto Mio - Zihuatanejo
    Villa Vera Puerto Isla Mujeres
    Villa Vera Acapulco
     
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  3. Bill4728

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    Here is a list of resorts owned by DRI in 2016 from

    "A Little Bit of History"
    By Osamu Kaneko, Steven C. Kenninger and Andrew J. Gessow




    This list is significantly different from the list of resorts in post #2
    BUT it is likely a better list of resorts

    Just not sure ??
     
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    There is a lot of info going around that resale owners of the US collection can not make trades in II.

    The below quote seem to say that IS NOT TRUE YOU CAN MAKE II TRADES WITH RESALE US COLLECTION POINTS

     
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    As of Jan 2009, DRI has a new point requirements for trades with II:

     
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    I have been trying figure out what is a good number of points to have in DRI that offers maximum flexibility and gets you where you want when you want. I came across this thread and was intrigued by what it said in that 6500 points for a 2 BDRM prime reservation. If prime week is let's say a "high season" week, Then 6500 points is not really enough. There are some resorts that have a 2BDRM during the "high season" but they are not the norm especially in the prime vacation areas.

    Just a little something I noticed. At one time this may have been correct, but not now.
     
  7. dougp26364

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    This is a pretty old thread. As you have noted, at least with exchanges with I.I., the rules have changed. 6,500 points use to get you a 2 bedroom red week exhange through I.I. anywhere and anytime so long as I.I. deemed the exchange reasonable based on the "exchange value" of DRI points.

    While DRI has been increasing the quality of their resorts, it appears that I.I. has decreased the value of DRI points within the I.I. system. Starting in 2009 (this thread was started in Feb 2008), it can take up to 12,000 points for a 4 bedroom premier resort in peak season. Previously I believe that same exchange, if you could even get it, would have been only 6,500 point. Conversly, if you wanted to travel during low season and only required a studio unit in a premium resort during low season, you would only need 2,500 points.

    I suppose one could look at the new points schedule as a way for DRI owners to be able to pay for exchanges they might not have been able to get previously by using more points. Or, you could look at it as taking 7,500 points to get a high season week at a premium resort where before they were reasonably easy to get for 6,500 points.

    This is the danger of playing in a points based system where the rules can be changed by either the managing company or the exchange company. Of course, even in a weeks based exchange system, the rules can change. You just might not see it on the surface. At least with points any changes are transparent.

    As an example consider Las Vegas 10 years ago as compared to today. 10 years ago, the only two I.I. resorts on the strip were Polo Towers (only 2 of 3 towers completed), Jockey Club and Carriage House. Today you can toss in Marriott's Grand Chateau (only 2 of 4 towers completed) and, very soon, Westgate's Planet Hollywood Towers (only 1 of 2 HUGE towers near completion). While I can see it with my own eye's, I'd almost bet you that the exchange power of PT, JC and CH have all diminished and will continue to diminish as supply more than triples over the next few years. With DRI's points based system, I can already see the devaluation of points in the I.I. system if I want a high or peak season week at a premium resort.

    Points requirements now vary between 1,500 for an economy low season studio unit to 12,000 for a peak season premium resort. If you're wanting to exchange through I.I. and not internally with DRI, you can use their chart to determine what works for you. Generally speaking most people will probably require high season and want premium resorts. That figure today is 7,500 points for a 2 bedroom unit, 5,500 points for a 1 bedroom unit and 4,000 points for a studio unit.

    Of course, as you've seen, points totals can change, both up and down. What's true today won't be true 10 years from now. But that's true whether you're in a points based exchange system or a weeks based exchange system.

    Everything I've written is based on exchanges with I.I. Internal exchanges within the DRI system are a different matter. Then it would depend on the quality of unit you want (deluxe or standard) and what resorts you see yourself vacationing in the most. If you want to go to Hawaii most of the time, you'll need enough points within the sytem for the resorts you want to visit most frequently in the season you want to visit. In any year you decide not to use all of your points, you have options for the disposition of unused points. That would include saving them to the next year, using them for FF miles, car rentals, MF fee payment, club dues payments, cruise discounts et.....

    The system itself is very flexible and user friendly. While I haven't always been positive about every aspect of DRI (I'm not positive about every aspect of any timeshare I own), there are good things about the system that I enjoy.
     
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    If it's a deeded timeshare, they receive the deed to the timeshare with the right to use that timeshare under the rules set up by the developer when the timeshare was built and as may have been modified by the HOA/BOD and a vote of the owners. That deed also allows you access to exchanges through either I.I. or RCI, whichever the resort of interest is affiliated with. You may also exchange through one of the independant exchange companies, rent you unit or sell it.

    If this is a Trust based ownership, then the buyer has the trust based intrest in all the resorts (19) associated with that trust but, does not have internal points based exchange access to all the resorts (> 100) associated with THE Club.

    The only thing that the membership is, is a membership to DRI's internal exchange program to all resorts included in THE Club. It's nothing more, nothing less. It's just a membership to their own personal internal exchange program.
     
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    As far as I know, you can't transfer club membership to anyone including family unless you die and they inherit the membership.

    Deeded properties can be transferred to anyone but without the Club membership.
     
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    More correctly, any DRI Contract (not merely the deeded contracts) can be sold to anyone you wish. But when you do, if your contract happens to participate in The Club, The Club membership will not transfer to the new owner. As already stated there are a limited number of ways The Club membership will transfer but for the most part it won't.

    To clarify, selling one of the DRI Collections contracts transfers the right to use the resorts listed in the Collections Contracts but membership in The Club will not transfer with them. So if you sell the US Collections contract the new owner will be able to use the 21-24 resorts in the US Collections. If they do a deal with DRI to get the resale contract back into the Club (I think nowadays you have to buy 2,000-4,000 points direct from DRI in order to get one resale contract back into The Club) then it will allos you to use your points at all resorts!
     
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    Prepayment and borrowing policy?

    I tried to book a 2012 reservation using my 2012 points today and it says "When booking a reservation for the following year or borrowing points from the following year, a deposit must be paid prior to the booking being confirmed...." Is this new????? I booked a 2012 reservation earlier this morning and now I was booking another and it will not let me unless I pay. Any ideas?
     
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    Equal Time in Reservations

    If you had some 2011 points banked, then that is why you may have been able to book the first reservation without prepayment. However, I do remember reading that DRI's computer system will be able to pick up when MF's have not been paid and will require them to be paid before reservations can be made. This would automatically happen when you booked a reservation when you called in to the reservation system. DRI's goal was for the same would happen if you booked online or if you booked by calling in.
     
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    DRI in Fall of 2011 bought out the Monarch Grand Vacation club (MGV) and will manage both MGV (the point based multiple resort system) and the deeded stand alone resorts.


    So when using MGV points to make a reservation you'll get 60 DRI pts / MGV pt.

    BUT if you want to convert your MGV ownership to DRI ownership, you'll get 30 annual DRI pts / MGV pt. This is because MGV points were "points per 24 months" not "points per year" of DRI points.
     
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    2015 us collection official additions

    Additional Resorts Added to Your Home Collection!
    We are happy to announce new resorts have been added to your Collection: Fairway Forest in Sapphire Valley, NC,
    and Charter Club in Naples, FL. Additionally, you now have home reservation benefits for the resorts in the Premiere
    Vacation Collection, located in Arizona and Indiana.
     
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    Are these actually diamond resorts, or just club affiliated resorts that you can now reserve within the DRI program?
     
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    Yes they are now part of the US Collection.

    Dear Diamond Resorts U.S. Collection Member,
    We hope you and your family have had the opportunity to visit a new destination, or returned to one of your favorite
    resorts. We are committed to providing our members with memorable vacation experiences. The team members
    look forward to greeting and providing you with excellent accommodations and warm, personal service.
    Additional Resorts Added to Your Home Collection!
    We are happy to announce new resorts have been added to your Collection: Fairway Forest in Sapphire Valley, NC,
    and Charter Club in Naples, FL. Additionally, you now have home reservation benefits for the resorts in the Premiere
    Vacation Collection, located in Arizona and Indiana.

    The other affiliates were referenced in the Club yearly update not the US collection update. Those resorts are on the recent 2016 vs 2015 thread. When I get the new directory, I'll sent you the sized pdf again to add hyperlink because it is too large a file for insertion. tia.
     
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    Fairway Forest in Sapphire Valley, NC, and Charter Club in Naples, FL may be in the US Collection, but they are affiliates and are not managed by DRI. DRI may own some amount of weeks there, but they do not manage the resort. It means that depending on how many weeks DRI owns, availability may be limited.
     
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    It also means that the Home Collection advantage, 13 month first request for that limited availability is now available. Info on collateral comes from the legal document which will be updated when issued and shared in this sticky.

    I don't care if they manage it or develop it. If you do, then look for the +/* attached to the resort in the following pdf of club inventory. BTW, it is easy to assume that limited availability means not ever however, that is not the case in my experience.

    excerpt from Club legal document (which can open pandora's box analyses).

    RESORTS WITH 21 TO 50 UNITS:

    Charter Club of Naples Bay
    1000 10th Avenue South, Naples, FL 34102
    Crescent Resort on South Beach
    1420 Ocean Drive, Miami, FL 33139
    Desert Isle of Palm Springs
    2555 East Palm Canyon Drive Palm Springs, CA 92264
    Diamond Suites on Malta
    St. George’s Bay, St. Julian’s, STJ02, Malta+
    Fairway Forest Resort
    70 Sapphire Valley Road, Sapphire, NC 28774
    Grand Leoniki Resort
    Crete, Greece
    The Historic Crag’s Lodge
    300 Riverside Drive | Estes Park, Colorado 80517+
    Ka‘anapali Shores
    Ka‘anapali Shores Place, Maui, HI 96761

    It is also true as my free resale points will have more choices in the US collection- 10 months out and probably shoulder season. I can drive to Naples in off season or shoulder- no flight required like Kauai.
     
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    Club Legal document 2015

    alas, the Club document!

    This shows some idea of how much inventory in intervals are in the system.
     

    Attached Files:

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    There are at least three kinds of DRI affiliate arrangements.

    1. DRI owns intervals at the resort but does not manage the property. (e.g. San Luis Bay Inn or Cypress Pointe). The Charter Club is this type of affiliate. As reported in the US Collection annual audit, the Collection owned 426.4 weeks at this location on Dec. 31, 2014. DRI, Inc may own additional intervals.

    2. DRI negotiates reciprocal exchange agreements. (e.g. Raintree Vacation Club or Pacific Grand locations.) Diamond explains: "Affiliated resorts are resorts with which we have contractual arrangements to use a certain number of vacation intervals or units either in exchange for our providing similar usage of intervals or units at our managed resorts or for a maintenance or rental fee. ... In the vast majority of cases, our affiliated resorts provide us with access to their vacation intervals or units in exchange for our providing similar usage of intervals or units at our managed resorts, and no fees are paid by us in connection with these exchanges."

    3. DRI rents rooms at affiliate locations. DRI either pays an upfront fee to reserve inventory at an affiliated resort or pays the affiliated resort the funds required at the time the reservation is made. This option is one reason for the increases in Club Dues: "we incorporate this upfront fee into our calculation for annual dues to be paid by members of the Clubs."
     
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    Points for flights- Silver member

    Hi, I am trying to figure out how the points redeemed for flights work. We were told by a member services gentleman that we could use our points to pay for flights, but I'm not locating any information like that anywhere. We were also told by a customer travel representative that it is 1 point per 1 dollar on the flights, so it should equal out the same. Is this correct?
     
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    Not $1 per point. The best you can get is $.10 per point if you are a Platinum member, otherwise less.

    There is also a redemption window which varies by "loyalty" level.
    Standard Jan 1 – Mar 31 (.07 per point)
    Silver Jan 1 – May 31 (.08 per point)
    Gold Jan 1 – Jul 31† (.09 per point)
    Platinum Jan 1 – Sep 30† (.10 per point)
    † Current year points are utilized for member benefits until June 30th, next years points are utilized beginning July 1st.


    See page 30 and 19
    http://tug2.net/timeshare_advice/US-Member-Benefits-Directory_10.pdf
     
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    Although the former Island One resorts are organized together as a "Club Connection," intervals are not held in a trust fund. There is no Florida Collection. Ownership in the former Island One resorts remains deeded weeks and the "Florida Club Connection" is organized with deposits or assignments of those deeds to the Club.

    According to DRI, Inc.'s annual financial report, the eight Diamond Collections (trust funds) are:

    The Diamond Resorts U.S. Collection (the “U.S. Collection”), which includes interests in resorts located in Arizona, California, Florida, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia and St. Maarten;

    The Diamond Resorts Hawaii Collection (the “Hawaii Collection”), which includes interests in resorts located in Arizona, California, Hawaii, Nevada and Utah;

    The Diamond Resorts California Collection (the “California Collection”), which includes interests in resorts located in Arizona, California and Nevada;

    The Premiere Vacation Collection (the “Premiere Vacation Collection”), which includes interests in resorts added to our network in connection with our acquisition of certain assets from ILX Resorts Incorporated in August 2010 (the "ILX Acquisition") located in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Nevada and Baja, Mexico;

    Monarch Grand Vacations (the “Monarch Grand Collection”), which includes interests in resorts added to our network in connection with the PMR Acquisition located in California, Nevada, Utah and Mexico;

    The Diamond Resorts European Collection (the “European Collection”), which includes interests in resorts located in Austria, England, France, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Scotland, Spain Balearics, Spain Canaries and Spain Costa;

    The Diamond Resorts Latin America Collection (the “Latin America Collection”), which currently includes interests in the Cabo Azul Resort located in Baja California Sur, Mexico, which was added to our network in connection with the PMR Acquisition; and

    The Diamond Resorts Mediterranean Collection (the “Mediterranean Collection”), which includes interests in resorts added to our network in connection with the Aegean Blue Acquisition (see “Our Strategic Acquisitions” for the definition of the Aegean Blue Acquisition) located in the Greek Islands of Crete and Rhodes.


    Club Intrawest, whatever its new name will be, will most likely become the ninth trust fund, holding deeds for eight or nine resorts (not sure what will happen to the resort in Mexico).


    Diamond's Latin America Collection has one resort: Cabo Azul

    The Mediterranean Collection resorts are:
    Village Heights Golf Resort, Hersonissos, Crete
    Leoniki Residence, Rethymnon, Crete
    Grand Leoniki, Rethymnon, Crete
    The Village Holiday Club, Koutouloufari, Crete
    Sun Beach Holiday Club, Ialyssos, Rhodes


    Club Connection booklets can be found with these links:

    Florida Club Connection Booklet
    https://cmstest.diamondresorts.com/sites/default/files/florida-club-connection-booklet-test.pdf

    Premiere Club Connection Booklet
    https://cmstest.diamondresorts.com/sites/default/files/PCC_2014_2015_BOOK_0.pdf

    Monarch Grand Vacations Club Connection Booklet
    https://cmstest.diamondresorts.com/...ch-Grand-Vacation-Club-Collection-Booklet.pdf

    Mediterranean Club Connection Booklet
    https://cmstest.diamondresorts.com/sites/default/files/DMCC-booklet.pdf
     
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