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Discussion in 'Non-traditional Interval Ownership' started by Kagehitokiri2, Feb 29, 2012.

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    dont recall if there was an active thread along these lines in the past
    figured start a new one, in case anyone wants to share

    i found this interesting >
    http://www.sherpareport.com/destination-clubs/paris-guide.html
    Quintess - Thomas Chaix - Colette
    Hideaways - Catherine Roberts - La Grande Epicerie
    Exclusive Resorts - Amy Schneider

    from a paris resident who is a luxury traveler >
     
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    http://www.sherpareport.com/destination-clubs/equity-estates-sell-out-2012.html
    Equity Estates Announces Sell Out of Fund I by May 1, 2012

    im assuming theyve reached the approximate number they want, and are giving people another 1.5 months to join

    after closing they add management fee

    ***

    vs original article

    http://www.departures.com/articles/boutique-shopping-in-paris by Martine Assouline
    login: john smith password: 371909
    from a paris resident who is a luxury traveler >
    http://www.assouline.com/info.html
    http://www.departures.com/arts-and-culture/the-world-of-assouline
     
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    http://www.sherpareport.com/quintess/french-laundry.html

    ok, now thats pretty interesting - local host with non Q property (Q has 2 wine country properties)
     
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    some concierges obtain access to providers/etc by sending big spenders to providers
    has anyone felt they benefitted from this kind of access, due to a club's leveraging of some of their HNW members who are bigger spenders? (just looking at some of the club concierge/experiential feedback)
    or at the moment does this only apply to ER, in terms of how it scales
    besides ER only Q has hundreds of members
    but then again AK has the parent company

    any AK members tried this? http://www.akairportconcierge.com/
    they should have some kind of discount or something for RC members

    re "clubs" with no deposits - has anyone actually seen substantial discounted rates available?
     
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    My personal experience is that the concierges at the 'big' properties have access. When we stayed at the Ritz Carlton Destination Club (exchange with AK) in San Francisco, the concierge there, got us into Gary Danko. I don't think that would have happened with a normal concierge (even AK). The Ritz Concierges are 'concierging' for hundreds of clients. (vs at an ak house there is only 1).

    I was blown away by the access they had to get us into restaurants that had no availability when I called.
     
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    good point - when i said in house i also meant local hosts.
    although there are also relationships between clubs and destination management companies.

    hotel concierges vary.

    forgot, something i heard when inspirato launched - targeted ER resignees who were not paying dues, was using (as mentioned) excess ER properties (that were built to sell?) with rates that were not discounted and sometimes premium

    so when they were successful, ER launches portico
     
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    I've just recently done some "comparison shopping" among the no deposit clubs that advertise up to 50% off and was pretty disappointed. When I compared what I actually had on the books via A&K with what they had available, the rates were $1,200 to $2,000/night (and that's even before the 10-15K deposit or $2.5K annual fee), as opposed to $800/night. Not a single comparable night was available cheaper. Also, the availability I thought was worse.

    To save money, I would need to go to places like Kiawah in the winter, ski destination in the summer or mud season or go with a smaller 2BR unit. The only exception that I saw was the Dominican Republic which had some good rates (but then again that is reflective of the overall luxury lodging market there which always has some great deals). The "from around $500/night" generally didn't seem representative in my opinion of rates available at times that most would want to go.

    In fairness to the lease only models, of course, no deposit beyond the 10-15K is required, so you'd naturally think the per night cost would be higher.
     
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    does any "club" even actually claim to lease entire portfolio?
    http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142908

    http://www.porticoclub.com/locations/bora_bora.html
    =
    http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/intercontinental/en/gb/locations/rooms/suites/borabora-lemoana

    inspirato has hotel "experiences"

    the original condohotel rental broker - http://www.jetluxuryresorts.com/

    demeure adds relationships with rental brokers to tradetotravel-style exchanging

    i see inspirato still has FS hualalai
    3BR from $550 http://www.inspirato.com/destinations/kohala-coast/residences/hale-orchid
    3BR with pool from $1095 http://www.inspirato.com/destinations/kohala-coast/residences/sugarcane/
     
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    ER @ RC FLL >

    they did sell the best (1603) for $1.65mm - ouch
    they paid $17.1mm for all 8 back on 6/6/07

    1502 1503 1508 1509
    1602 xxxx 1608 1609

    instead of bumping old thread >

    1/22/11 (through at least 3/1/11) nonrefundable option with 27.3% > 37.5% discount
    http://tugbbs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1071099&postcount=1232

    1/18/12 (started before this) - no refundable option or 10 nt option
     
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    removed...
     
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    http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-resorts-abercrombie-kent-announce-180000011.html

    AKRC members own real estate and ER manages?
    AKRC (who?) can change management?
    AKRC stops sales > http://www.akresidenceclub.com/index_noLinks.aspx that leaves luxus and rocksure for zero-debt equity.
    wonder if m private residences can/will also consider this.
     
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    Correct. AKRC (now RCHC) members continue to own the real estate through their corporation, and management can be changed.

    I personally think its a good result for members, Exclusive Resorts and Exclusive Resorts members. More travel opportunities for RCHC members, ER collects more in dues, and ER members have some new houses and a good travel partner in A&K.
     
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    is it just ER members on the forum now?
    (any EE members still?)

     
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    What other clubs are still viable and operating?
     
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    (those are the US clubs)

    canada - m, luxus
    europe (UK?) - hideaways, rocksure
    asia - banyan tree private collection

    (luxus and rocksure are zero debt equity)

    ER is definitely nonrefundable, presume Q is the same
    ER >
    from current pricing PDF >
     
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